People can come at me all they want. Chiarot is better than Petry and far more worth his contract.

You are outside your mind. The Pens reject that trade immediately. Petry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiarot. Chiarot is one of the worst dmen in the NHL.

For starters, go do a simple player compare on NST from this season. Your statement has officially made you one of the worst posters on this board.

I think Petry is better but not by much. I like the deal for the positional value and Jeff has 2 years left compared to 3 for Ben. Overall dollar-wise it’s nearly identical.

You are obnoxiously incorrect.

One of the worst D-men in the league don’t typically get traded for 1st round picks bud.

Petry also had a terrible year this past season. So relax.

Hell no

Pens decline. So do the Leafs for that matter.

No, he had a bad first half of the season struggling to settle in to a new team/system. The second half of the year was much stronger. Go look at every single stat imaginable and you'll be proven wrong instantly. I'm obnoxiously correct in every single way and you're smugly wrong in every single way.

If you think FLA getting fleeced has anything to do with anything, then you're as ignorant as the other guy. Here's Jfresh just for starters. I suggest you go to a player compare on natural stat trick before spouting off things you know nothing about.

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This trade is borderline insulting.

Yeah, I’d say ur options with Petry are pretty slim. It’ll be either a deal like this, pay someone to take him or buy him out.

Kubalik is coming off a great year and could be a good peice but we already have a very similar guy in Jarnkrok so no deal

Wouldn’t call it a “terrible year” under any circumstance, trust me it could’ve gone a lot worse…. He was underwhelming but by no means would I call an above 30 point season in a 66 game stretch, a terrible year….

He was a liability at times on the defensive end but the offensive game was and is still there from him.

Like many players, he struggled to settle in to a new team and system, and then found his footing. He got injured in the process, too. He paced at betweetn 40-45 points playing a near full season and that's with little to no 1st PP unit time and playing 2nd pairing minutes.

Or we just keep him because he's still good.

Or keep him considering the price we paid for him and let him thrive with bottom 4 minutes and a reliable defense partner (Pettersson or other shut down defenseman) and you watch the numbers go up

You can pull any stats from wherever you’d like my man. The worst way to judge a NHL defenseman is basing it off of the stats you wanna reference. Stats lie. Moritz Seider, Devon Teows, Miro Heiskanen, Jake Sanderson and many more top tier defenders rank outside the top 200 in several advanced metric stats; I guess that makes Jeff Petry better than all of them right?

Here you go. Extracted from NST. Don't even try to weasel out of this and question real numbers. Petry is so much better than Chiarot it's not even funny. They're not even in the same realm.

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I think he’s a fine player but, outside of his offensive upside, there isn’t much difference in terms of talent between him and Chiarot.

Yeah, you could keep him but that will likely mean more of the same as this year for next year. I thought it was a mistake for the Pens to attempt to run it back with the vets last year and I was hoping I’d be wrong because I do enjoy watching Crosby in the postseason. They failed and they simply cannot expect different results with the same team next year. Petry is one of a handful of players that almost certainly will be moved despite the cost to acquire him previously.

My little comparison? You saying stats lie discredits every single thing you could possibly say. You clearly know you're wrong and have no leg to stand on, you say stats lie. You've never said a more foolish thing on this board. You clearly don't watch hockey either.

You're making baseless claims because you just want to be right. You don't watch the Pens and have NOTHING to back up ANYTHING you're saying.

Go run your comparison and tell me that Jeff Petry is better than Moritz Seider. Cuz that’s what the stats will tell your little pea brain.

Being better and having a better season are two VERY different things. Seider, who I like a lot, took some major steps back this year. It was very visible. He was a step behind all year. Plus, it would make no sense to compare a player who's still developing to a player who's well-established, but I will say that Petry played better than Seider in the second half of this year. Seider has all the tools to become one of the top five best dmen in hockey.

Seider did not play well this year. Petry was better this year in the second half. Just facts.

Lol. Do you realize that judging a defenseman on a bad team is one of the most difficult assessments to make? Stats become obsolete.

Moritz Seider had less production this year compared to his rookie year but, he played just as well, if not better than last year. You would have had to have watched him play to know that. The articles, analysts & stats won’t do most defenseman justice.

As a Pens fan, I dont think I would trade Petry. He had an ok year, average year. I think he has a very high chance of having a great year with us next yr. 2nd yr with a team is always better for players. This argument going on that Petry is the worst dman is laughable. He is a solid right side dman. Don't want Chiarot for him at all.

Having said that, I do agree that stats aren't everything. yes, they are important and is/will be a major part of hockey. But there is so much more to a player then stats. I HATE the "look at the stats" argument. Sure, we can look at them. but they don't tell the ENTIRE story of a player. GM's have to watch them play too, they don't not watch games and then just look at stats. You gotta watch the games too, that tells you alot too.

In what aspect of the game is he the worst?

In what part of the game did he take a step back?