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Just Fiddlin

Created by: JamesS37
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2023
Published: May 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
I don't love it, its not real. Just read, think, and move on. I like the original Anaheim deal, I like the Chicago deal, don't like the Arizona deal(s), Leafs don't give up enough there. Maybe they retain 50% on Brodie.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
3$875,000
2$850,000
2$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,500,000
2$875,000
5$3,000,000
3$3,500,000
3$800,000
3$850,000
5$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
1$1,250,000
2$1,800,000
1$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3$925,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Comtois, Maxime [RFA Rights]
  2. Drysdale, Jamie [RFA Rights]
  3. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Abruzzese, Nick [RFA Rights]
  2. Murray, Matt
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
ARI
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Muzzin, Jake
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (CHI)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
4.
TOR
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Koster, Mike [Reserve List]
    2. Schingoethe, Wyatt [Reserve List]
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    2024
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the NYI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$73,044,283$0$0$10,455,717

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
    $4,300,000$4,300,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Fantilli, Adam
    $925,000$925,000
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $875,000$875,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    $800,000$800,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RD
    RFA - 2

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    May 26, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    Absolutely horrid for the Ducks. They keep their cap and Fanelli. Horrid for Arizona, they keep Crouse and please do you really think Brodie waives for Arizona?
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    May 26, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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    Yeah that's not happening
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    May 26, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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    CHI declines. TOR isn't getting the CHI or OTT 2nd round picks in a Murray deal. I doubt CHI would even want to give up the TBL 2nd. Probably looking at a 3rd or the NYR 2nd at the earliest.
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    May 26, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.
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    You arent getting anything close to that from ANA

    We still arent a playoff team if we did that but now we're an expensive basement team

    Comtois + Henrique for Marner (Clearly a no) other than that the Ducks arent interested
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    May 26, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Absolutely horrid for the Ducks. They keep their cap and Fanelli. Horrid for Arizona, they keep Crouse and please do you really think Brodie waives for Arizona?


    Disagree, don't disagree, and no not likely, even though his NTC changes to I believe a 10 team list Arizona is still probably on that list.
    May 26, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
    #6
    Once a Kings Fan Too
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    In what IdiocyWorld is trading the entire careers of Adam Fantilli and Jamie Drysdale for two seasons of Mitch Marner a good idea?!?!?

    Murray and the Boston first for the Tampa Bay second is just barely possible. More likely is the NY Rangers second.
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    May 26, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    In what IdiocyWorld is trading the entire careers of Adam Fantilli and Jamie Drysdale for two seasons of Mitch Marner a good idea?!?!?

    Murray and the Boston first for the Tampa Bay second is just barely possible. More likely is the NY Rangers second.


    Drysdale's value took a hit because of injuries, its a steep price no doubt but as always its the guaranteed value of Marner for the possible value of two others. No guarantees Fantilli isn't Nolan Patrick 2.0. I also don't know that Marner would walk from ANA, I think he'd probably like the proximity to LA and the drop off in pressure form TOR. Its one of those things where no one on here has all the info, if Drysdale's nevergoing to reach his once high potential it becomes a lot more favourable to ANA. If ANA is concerned though conditional picks could alleviate that too.

    The Murray trade is comparable to the Mrazek deal and I feel like Murrays value is higher than Mrazek's was.
    May 26, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Garak
    CHI declines. TOR isn't getting the CHI or OTT 2nd round picks in a Murray deal. I doubt CHI would even want to give up the TBL 2nd. Probably looking at a 3rd or the NYR 2nd at the earliest.


    Toronto only dropped 13 spots in draft for Chicago to take Mrazek at $3.8mil. There's no way they drop further to take Murray even at a higher dollar value. Mrazek was hurt and bad, Murray was just hurt.
    May 26, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: JamesS37
    Toronto only dropped 13 spots in draft for Chicago to take Mrazek at $3.8mil. There's no way they drop further to take Murray even at a higher dollar value. Mrazek was hurt and bad, Murray was just hurt.


    The difference is, CHI doesn't need a goalie this year. Last year, CHI needed a stop-gap goaltender. Also, I think that was a bit of a discount to make up after the trade leak debacle. It is more than likely CHI could've just taken Rinzel with the 38th pick and not done that trade to begin with.
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