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Created by: MacanBayangan
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 2, 2023
Published: Jun. 2, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
3$3,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,100,000
3$2,100,000
4$5,000,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,000,000
5$4,500,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Pesce, Brett
Additional Details:
Nylander* > Necas
Carryover of Nylander+1st+Timmins+Steeves for expiring UFA Pesce

*Nylander signs extension with CAR (circa $9mx8)
CAR
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Steeves, Alex
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Pesce signs extension with TOR (circa $6x5)
2.
TOR
SJS
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  4. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
  5. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,459,917$0$0$40,083
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
UFA - 4
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,250,000$3,250,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$900,000$900,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jun. 2, 2023 at 7:18 a.m.
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Too bad the Canes aren’t interested
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Jun. 2, 2023 at 7:28 a.m.
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Wouldn’t it be better just to buy out Murray. 3 draft picks and a player that you don’t know his full potential yet.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 7:38 a.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Too bad the Canes aren’t interested


Why would the Canes not be interested in a 40 goal scorer? Word is the Canes and Leafs are talking about Marner
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Jun. 2, 2023 at 7:51 a.m.
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Quoting: junoandkeisha
Wouldn’t it be better just to buy out Murray. 3 draft picks and a player that you don’t know his full potential yet.


I hear you but that $2m next year would be a killer in this scenario as would have to pay Matthews, Necas, Pesce, Lilly and replacement for Brodie. Therefore figured it was better to offload without losing a 1st so tried to make the package decent enough that someone might take it.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 7:52 a.m.
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Quoting: kous
Why would the Canes not be interested in a 40 goal scorer? Word is the Canes and Leafs are talking about Marner


Exactly.

I do like this Nylander trade though and its a lot easier for the Canes cap. To get Necas and Pesce back improves the overall balance of the line-up imo
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
Too bad the Canes aren’t interested


Sadly I would like that man in NC frown
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.
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Buyout murray u only pay 687000 for him if u do
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:04 a.m.
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Barbashev ain't going no where knights want him and what is that Samsonov signing 3.25Mil???? NAH he'll ask for 4.5Mil in the least
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
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Why would the Canes not be interested in a 40 goal scorer? Word is the Canes and Leafs are talking about Marner


A nobody radio host makes up a rumor and everyone takes it as true. We wouldn’t be interested because Marner has no control and cap hit is too high
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:09 a.m.
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Nothin', you idiots, Dr. Tre's dead.
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Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:18 a.m.
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Quoting: ecupirate07
A nobody radio host makes up a rumor and everyone takes it as true. We wouldn’t be interested because Marner has no control and cap hit is too high


It has come up from many different legit sources. Howard Berger, Paul Bissonnette etc. Marner has 2 years left on his deal and his cap hit is not bad at all. He's probably the best playmaker in the NHL not named McDavid.

I personally don't think they should give up him as hes still young
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:22 a.m.
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Quoting: kous
It has come up from many different legit sources. Howard Berger, Paul Bissonnette etc. Marner has 2 years left on his deal and his cap hit is not bad at all. He's probably the best playmaker in the NHL not named McDavid.

I personally don't think they should give up him as hes still young

So you haven’t named one legit source and they all are regurgitating each other. In fact all the legitimate sources are saying the big 4 aren’t moving.
Also for a team expecting to have very little available cap space in 24-25, a 11 million cap hit is in fact too much.

Marner is a great player but we can’t extend him at the trade. So we run the risk of losing him for nothing and we can’t afford him in year 2 anyways.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Quoting: kous
Why would the Canes not be interested in a 40 goal scorer? Word is the Canes and Leafs are talking about Marner


Because we don't want to give up the farm for somebody who wasn't been able elevate his team
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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Quoting: kous
It has come up from many different legit sources. Howard Berger, Paul Bissonnette etc. Marner has 2 years left on his deal and his cap hit is not bad at all. He's probably the best playmaker in the NHL not named McDavid.

I personally don't think they should give up him as hes still young


howard berger is faaaaar from legit
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
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You’re going to regret giving O’reilly 4x 5 million in two years. He’s already slow.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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I like Nylander as a Hurricane more than Marner. Here’s why;

I think he’s a better goal scorer
He’s still an ample playmaker
He can play center in a pinch to fill in for injuries
He only has one year on his deal which affords the opportunity to talk extension talks on July 1 - ideally before a deal is made
He looked to be the better playoff performer the past few years
He has a much lower AAV this year which allows canes to further utilize cap space they have this year for more depth.

That said - the deal mentioned isn’t good for the Canes. Moving Necas or Pesce is fine, but I can’t envision the Canes moving both.

Simplify this - just go Necas & Skjei for Nylander. Canes will pickup the extra AAV difference to make it cap neutral.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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First off no chance Pesce signs 6x$6 😂; 4x$4.5 maybe. Dude doesn’t score and moneypuck just tweeted d pair stats during playoffs - he / Skjei were 20th of 20 so his defensive prowess is overrated.
Can’t see the leafs doing this - team is worse next year without Willy; keep him and extend him.
I almost didn’t even see that leafs give up the 1st rounder - truly laughable and reprehensible 😂
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
First off no chance Pesce signs 6x$6 😂; 4x$4.5 maybe. Dude doesn’t score and moneypuck just tweeted d pair stats during playoffs - he / Skjei were 20th of 20 so his defensive prowess is overrated.
Can’t see the leafs doing this - team is worse next year without Willy; keep him and extend him.
I almost didn’t even see that leafs give up the 1st rounder - truly laughable and reprehensible 😂


Lollll at that Pesce offer. 6x6 is about right for him, but you would have to look at a bigger picture than a 15 game sample for that
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Davioparker
Lollll at that Pesce offer. 6x6 is about right for him, but you would have to look at a bigger picture than a 15 game sample for that


All I hear is that the leafs can win in reg season but choke in playoffs. Same can be says for canes apparently and Pesce is at the top of the list; we don’t need help to win in the season and won’t be shelling $6M for guy that doesn’t produce offensively + gets caved in during playoffs.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
All I hear is that the leafs can win in reg season but choke in playoffs. Same can be says for canes apparently and Pesce is at the top of the list; we don’t need help to win in the season and won’t be shelling $6M for guy that doesn’t produce offensively + gets caved in during playoffs.


I'd be curious if that were the case for all playoff appearances for Pesce or just this season. He's a stay at home guy that makes a good exit pass and can skate well. Stop downplaying him cause you didn't trade Willy for him straight up four years ago tears of joy
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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I'd be curious if that were the case for all playoff appearances for Pesce or just this season. He's a stay at home guy that makes a good exit pass and can skate well. Stop downplaying him cause you didn't trade Willy for him straight up four years ago tears of joy


One half of the Worst defensive pairing in the playoffs; that’s quite a one off (if it even is). Lots of Leaf rumours floating around, I wouldn’t believe 99% of them - Willy was never on the block during Dubas’ era; it’s not but certainly would have been one of the worst trades in leafs history if it had happened
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:31 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
One half of the Worst defensive pairing in the playoffs; that’s quite a one off (if it even is). Lots of Leaf rumours floating around, I wouldn’t believe 99% of them - Willy was never on the block during Dubas’ era; it’s not but certainly would have been one of the worst trades in leafs history if it had happened


Pesce is not a bottom tier dman. Stop using one tweet to try to make that so.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
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Pesce is not a bottom tier dman. Stop using one tweet to try to make that so.


Who said bottom tier? And it isn’t one tweet - it’s advanced stat breakdown of d pairings during current playoffs. Can’t hide from the facts. I simply am stating he doesn’t produce offensively and he’s coming off playoffs where he was very, very bad defensively. So was TJ Brodie (& I love Brodie) but I certainly wouldn’t state he’s signing for 2x$6M (difference in their ages) 🤷🏻
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Open the sample size up to more than just the playoffs.

It’s also interesting that the Canes were able to make it to the ECF while having the worst defensive pairing in hockey playing a TON of mins against the other teams best forward lines.

Quoting: MitchJr
Who said bottom tier? And it isn’t one tweet - it’s advanced stat breakdown of d pairings during current playoffs. Can’t hide from the facts. I simply am stating he doesn’t produce offensively and he’s coming off playoffs where he was very, very bad defensively. So was TJ Brodie (& I love Brodie) but I certainly wouldn’t state he’s signing for 2x$6M (difference in their ages) 🤷🏻
Jun. 2, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.
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Necas + Skjei for Nylander should work for you then?

If you don’t like Pesce because he doesn’t score - Skjei was top 5 goal scoring D man in the league and has one of the better 5v5 scoring rates across all defenseman over the last two years.

Quoting: MitchJr
First off no chance Pesce signs 6x$6 😂; 4x$4.5 maybe. Dude doesn’t score and moneypuck just tweeted d pair stats during playoffs - he / Skjei were 20th of 20 so his defensive prowess is overrated.
Can’t see the leafs doing this - team is worse next year without Willy; keep him and extend him.
I almost didn’t even see that leafs give up the 1st rounder - truly laughable and reprehensible 😂
 
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