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Recovery from Fletcher Era

Created by: SpankyGeezus
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2023
Published: Jun. 12, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
3$2,650,000
2$1,850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,900,000
1$950,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Foudy, Liam
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (LAK)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($2,000,000 retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (PHI)
CAR
  1. Deangelo, Anthony ($2,500,000 retained)
3.
PHI
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Philly gets two firsts (reported ask for Hart) along with a project prospect in Robertson and a young RHD with team control.
TOR
  1. Hart, Carter
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. Seeler, Nick
  4. 2023 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Toronto gets a young start in Hart who is a bit of an unknown when it comes to his real ability in this league. Laughton is a great two-way top 9 players who adds grit and many intangibles. Seeler is a good veteran depth D-man who can kill penalties and anchor a bottom 6 pairing
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$68,532,501$1,187,500$457,500$14,967,499
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
G
RFA - 1
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,900,000$2,900,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
$950,000$950,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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Not really interested in replacing Liljegren with a 30 year old Nick Seeler from the Leafs perspective.
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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That’s not enough for Hart Laughton Seeler lol.

Trade would break up like this:
Laughton for a 1st and Robertson (probably enough)
Hart for 1st and Liljegren (not even close to flyers asking price)
Seeler and a 4th for ….. nothing?
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Leafs say no.

Two 1sts for Carter Hart (you won't get that return, but for arguments sake sure)
Liljegren + Robertson for Laughton, Seeler and a 4th (massive L for the Leafs. Liljegren himself outvalues that package).
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: jsteed02
Not really interested in replacing Liljegren with a 30 year old Nick Seeler from the Leafs perspective.


You get Hart and Laughton in a massive underpay by the Leafs and ur hung up on Seeler ? Good lord 😂😂😂😂
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.
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Leafs say no.


It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Come on, man.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
That’s not enough for Hart Laughton Seeler lol.

Trade would break up like this:
Laughton for a 1st and Robertson (probably enough)
Hart for 1st and Liljegren (not even close to flyers asking price)
Seeler and a 4th for ….. nothing?


Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol


Ok Daniel Briere
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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Nah.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
It doesn’t matter Flyers wouldn’t offer it without taking back double the return currently offered lol


In your dreams maybe.

Ilya Samsonov is objectively a better goalie than Carter Hart. The Leafs have 0 need to trade two first rounds picks for him.

They also have zero need to trade a young player who started playing top 4 minutes for us, for a depth d-man and a 4th round pick lmao

Robertson for Laughton about the only thing that makes sense. A prospect that can use a change, for a third line forward.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him


Carter Hart had a goals saved above expected of 12.93
Ilya Samsonov had 21.24

Carter Hart can be a good goalie behind a good team, issue is, Toronto already has that.

Toronto realistically isn't a suitor for Carter Hart, unless it's a swap of the two goalies
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
You get Hart and Laughton in a massive underpay by the Leafs and ur hung up on Seeler ? Good lord 😂😂😂😂


The Leafs aren’t desperate for Carter Hart, we have Samsonov and Woll. Liljegren is worth way more than what he’s being valued at in this trade.
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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In your dreams maybe.

Ilya Samsonov is objectively a better goalie than Carter Hart. The Leafs have 0 need to trade two first rounds picks for him.

They also have zero need to trade a young player who started playing top 4 minutes for us, for a depth d-man and a 4th round pick lmao

Robertson for Laughton about the only thing that makes sense. A prospect that can use a change, for a third line forward.


Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Just because Carter Hart plays behind the worst defence in NHL history does not make him a good goalie. He has a career .906 sv. They would be lucky to get Casey Desmith in a deal for him


Just do some research instead of being uninformed you can go look at my sources above^ it will help u actually learn
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just do some research instead of being uninformed you can go look at my sources above^ it will help u actually learn


Have you considered that Hart will be in a federal prison serving 25 years by American Thanksgiving?
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Flyers insiders 😂 - that’s definitive
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: bfloyd92
Have you considered that Hart will be in a federal prison serving 25 years by American Thanksgiving?


Ah ok ur one of these lol, noted. Good luck to you 👍🏼
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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Hart & Laughton’s agent deserves a lot of credit - talk about being over hyped
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchMafia
Flyers insiders 😂 - that’s definitive


That was then quoted by Pagnotta and talked about by Friedman on one of his podcasts I’m literally just do research and Leaf’s fans wouldn’t look so uninformed on this website in everything they say and do
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Hart & Laughton’s agent deserves a lot of credit - talk about being over hyped


Overhyped is the Leafs have the same amount of playoffs series won as the Flyers in the last decade despite the Flyers only being in the playoffs like 3 of the 10 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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So now Hart and Laughton worth the equivalent of 3 1st +

Let's be honest, Seeler and the 4rth and Roberston counter each other.

Here's how the value is assed (also note that the Leafs would be paying this much for a 3/4C and backup on their roster):

2024 1st>Laughton
Lilly and the 2023 1st>Hart

Why would the Leafs do this?
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Is that before Fletcher was fired or after?
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo , the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


Key words: Flyers insiders... Not neutral insiders like Friedman and Marek or opposing team insiders like Luke Fox, Flyers insiders, whom have the same credibility as Habs insiders saying that Josh Anderson has been offered a 1+ and Hughes turned it down.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Just because u do no research and comment whatever you want doesn’t mean ur right lol. I advise u to do osmosis research. It would help all of us on here. Flyers have already turned down multiple deals for Laughton in which a late 1st was offered per Flyers insider Di Marco. Per San Filippo, the Flyers already have offers from multiple teams for Hart including Toronto and Edmonton and more are expected. Haven’t seen any news on teams wanting Samsonov so clearly GMs think 1 is the better goalie. Just do like any research at all and u would be actually informed on the topic lol


I guarantee people want Sammy, difference is one actually is open to resigning where he plays
Jun. 12, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Overhyped is the Leafs have the same amount of playoffs series won as the Flyers in the last decade despite the Flyers only being in the playoffs like 3 of the 10 years 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Bit of a reach comparing top 5 team to tire fire that is the flyers but 🤷🏻. And I forgot - Laughton has heart and Hart has potential so they are totally worth that 😅. Or they could just be ok players on a terrible team. Good luck with the rebuild
 
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