What Id Like to See Hopefully Realistic

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Created by: TBOLT

Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2023

Published: Jun. 12, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Trades
I tried to mix in picks along with young NHLers. Giving those young guys time to play in the rebuilding years to see how they will fit into the future. Using most of the picks this year to spread around the entire prospect pool, for 7 and 11 I would like to take Michkov and Benson. Both have been slipping in mocks I've seen so it does not seem too outlandish to hope for that. OEL contract will be up or almost up once team is ready to compete again, taking him on to jump up makes a lot of sense to me.

Signings
Frost giving more than projected to get a couple of years, same with York to try and stagger when their next contract would come up. Eller comes on a higher rental contract for veteran leadership that was lost in the trades and can be moved at the deadline. Deadline moves would also hopefully include Walker and Yamamoto (unless Yamamoto has a huge breakout and it makes more sense to keep)

Coots and Atkinson I'm hoping can play in between 45-60 games this year, so depth is going to be needed for the games they miss. Coots hopefully can stay as the leader for the young guys throughout the rebuild and Atkinson can hopefully have a decent season on the comeback and be flipped next offseason.

First time trying one of these so if its very outlandish I apologize, also some of the trade ideas seem chalky to me but that also make a lot of sense based on the rumors going around atm.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Cates, Noah	2	$2,750,000
Frost, Morgan	4	$3,400,000
York, Cam	3	$2,800,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Eller, Lars		1	$3,400,000

Trades

PHI

Broberg, Philip
Ceci, Cody
Holloway, Dylan
Yamamoto, Kailer
2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 1st round pick (EDM)

EDM

Konecny, Travis
Seeler, Nick
2023 5th round pick (PHI)

PHI

2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)
2025 3rd round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

Hayes, Kevin ($3,500,000 retained)
2023 4th round pick (EDM)

PHI

2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
2024 5th round pick (SEA)

SEA

Deangelo, Anthony ($2,500,000 retained)

PHI

Robertson, Nicholas
2023 1st round pick (BOS)
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)

TOR

Laughton, Scott

PHI

Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
2023 1st round pick (VAN)

VAN

Ceci, Cody
2023 1st round pick (BOS)

Buyouts

Oskar Lindblom: $666,667
Ilya Bryzgalov: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Kevin Hayes: $3,500,000 (98%)
Anthony Deangelo: $2,500,000 (149.25%)

Buried

Cal Petersen: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$73,429,000	$1,187,500	$1,500,000	$10,071,000

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Farabee, Joel $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 5	Couturier, Sean $7,750,000$7,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Tippett, Owen $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Atkinson, Cam $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Frost, Morgan $3,400,000$3,400,000 C RFA - 2	Foerster, Tyson $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2
Cates, Noah $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($650,000$650K) LW, C RFA - 1	Yamamoto, Kailer $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW RFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Eller, Lars $3,400,000$3,400,000 C UFA - 2	Deslauriers, Nicolas $1,750,000$1,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
	Laczynski, Tanner $762,500$762,500 RW, C UFA - 1	Allison, Wade $785,000$785,000 RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD UFA - 1	York, Cam $2,800,000$2,800,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Hart, Carter $3,979,000$3,979,000 G RFA - 1
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Ristolainen, Rasmus $5,100,000$5,100,000 RD UFA - 4	Sandström, Felix $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 1
Broberg, Philip $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 1	Walker, Sean $2,650,000$2,650,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Ellis, Ryan $6,250,000$6,250,000 RD UFA - 4

Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.

AK50

JT Miller for Hart

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Oilers trade is an overpay.
With the Canucks trade, I'd 100% take that.

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.

Oiler_fan88

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Holloway is untouchable not to mention quite an overpay for no retention

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.

Branden23

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Holy **** a first AND Robertson, you sure you meant to put Laughton there and not TK???

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.

The_Ginger_Leaf

ginger

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Holy overpays 😂
I’m curious if you even watch hockey or even know what it is

Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

TheBigFlyera

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Quoting: The_Ginger_Leaf

Holy overpays 😂
I’m curious if you even watch hockey or even know what it is

Do some research you’d be shocked to find out how wrong you are

Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

JBrger18

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I have been seeing a lot of large overpays on TK. That is almost like four first round picks for one. Jack Eichel's trade return would be almost equivalent (given Tuch's value at the time)

Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

TheBigFlyera

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Quoting: Branden23

Holy **** a first AND Robertson, you sure you meant to put Laughton there and not TK???

Please do some research it is literally the asking price for Laughton, it literally just was reported last week

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:56 p.m.

TheBigFlyera

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Quoting: JBrger18

I have been seeing a lot of large overpays on TK. That is almost like four first round picks for one. Jack Eichel's trade return would be almost equivalent (given Tuch's value at the time)

We don’t want Yammo or Ceci they are just cap dumps lol I would do TK for 1st Holloway and Broberg and if you think that’s an overpay ur gonna be upset when u see the trade lol

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 5:57 p.m.

ReelBigFan

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Quoting: Branden23

Holy **** a first AND Robertson, you sure you meant to put Laughton there and not TK???

Does Robertson even hold any value? Honestly, the guy is an essentially a bust due to his injuries. I’d say 1st and 3rd gets you Laughton though… keep Mr. Glass

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.

#10

JBrger18

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Quoting: TheBigFlyera

We don’t want Yammo or Ceci they are just cap dumps lol I would do TK for 1st Holloway and Broberg and if you think that’s an overpay ur gonna be upset when u see the trade lol

If I am the Oil I don't move Ceci. And Yammo would be a cap dump to Philly, since they aren't going to be competitive. I would trade Yammo for a late round pick or buyout before Looking to trade assets for a dump. Oil would need Philly or a third party to retain upwards of $2M or $3M for that to even work, which gets way to expensive for my liking. I would also rather send Bourgault than Holloway personally.

Jun. 12, 2023 at 6:37 p.m.

#11

jazzhandz321

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I'd counter with Robertson + 1st + Murray for Laughton + Seeler

Jun. 12, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.

#12

phillyjabroni

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Quoting: TheBigFlyera

We don’t want Yammo or Ceci they are just cap dumps lol I would do TK for 1st Holloway and Broberg and if you think that’s an overpay ur gonna be upset when u see the trade lol

There is no chance the Flyers get Holloway, Broberg, and a 2024 1st rounder for TK. Edmonton needs Holloway or guys on the ELC for the cap to work. Can't move out everyone just to improve their 2nd line.

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Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:02 p.m.

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The_Ginger_Leaf

ginger

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Quoting: TheBigFlyera

Do some research you’d be shocked to find out how wrong you are

Tell me how Laughton is worth 2 firsts and Robertson then we’ll see if I’m wrong

Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:18 p.m.

#14

TheBigFlyera

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Quoting: The_Ginger_Leaf

Tell me how Laughton is worth 2 firsts and Robertson then we’ll see if I’m wrong

The Flyers already turned down late 1sts for Laughton they likely want another smaller pick or prospect. The articles are there, literally just do some research

Jun. 12, 2023 at 7:28 p.m.

#15

Quillanrocks

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Even with retention, Seattle likely has zero interest in taking DeAngelo off your hands, and certainly not for the draft capital suggested.

Jun. 12, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.

#16

benabary

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CBJ Decline. No need to overpay for Hayes. A 3rd in 2024 alone is enough for Hayes with 30% retained.

Jun. 13, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.

#17

The_Ginger_Leaf

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Quoting: TheBigFlyera

The Flyers already turned down late 1sts for Laughton they likely want another smaller pick or prospect. The articles are there, literally just do some research

You seem you know everything but you don’t. They would run away and take that deal. 2 firsts and 50/50 high or low potential prospect. Nicky is a very good prospect he may need a new team just to break out

Jun. 13, 2023 at 8:09 a.m.

#18

TheBigFlyera

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Quoting: The_Ginger_Leaf

Where do you see two 1sts for Laughton? I see one 1st a 3rd and an always injured prospect that we have plenty of

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