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Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 12, 2023
Published: Jun. 12, 2023
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3$1,750,000
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1$775,000
2$900,000
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  2. Campbell, Jack
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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Canucks pass.NO cap.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:34 p.m.
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Vancouver easily declines. Don't have the cap space, and don't need wingers.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
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This doesn’t get you TK or Hart lol let alone both.

Trade breaks down like this:
Campbell and a 1st and 3rd to dump him (probably still not even enough)
Tk for a 1st and Broberg (not even close to enough)
Hart with $2M retained for ….. free?

Not sure how you thought this was even close lol. Flyers want 2 firsts and prospects for TK and they want multiple firsts for Hart. So at minimum ur 3 firsts and a prospect or two away and that’s not even including probably another 2nd for the $2M worth of retention lol
Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:38 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
This doesn’t get you TK or Hart lol let alone both.

Trade breaks down like this:
Campbell and a 1st and 3rd to dump him (probably still not even enough)
Tk for a 1st and Broberg (not even close to enough)
Hart with $2M retained for ….. free?

Not sure how you thought this was even close lol. Flyers want 2 firsts and prospects for TK and they want multiple firsts for Hart. So at minimum ur 3 firsts and a prospect or two away and that’s not even including probably another 2nd for the $2M worth of retention lol


Flyers can want whatever they want, what have either of those players done to bring in that return? If that's the ask and they were going to get it, it would be a done deal
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:39 p.m.
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Flyers can want whatever they want, what have either of those players done to bring in that return? If that's the ask and they were going to get it, it would be a done deal


TK is a point per game player at his best and Hart is their starter who they don't need to trade.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Moss_Bucket
TK is a point per game player at his best and Hart is their starter who they don't need to trade.


Konecny just had his best statistical season and finished 91 in the league in scoring. Hart is a good goalie but certainly not a star. Not sure how you can expect 2+ firsts for either player when much better players haven't garnered that return
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
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TK is a point per game player at his best and Hart is their starter who they don't need to trade.


“What have they done” idk TK has been an all-star that just scored at a PPG last year at only 26 and is on a cheap contract for 2 more years and Hart is an established goalie at only 24 putting up decent numbers on an absolute tire fire. It’s like people don’t even think before speaking 😂😂😂😂😂
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
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Okay besides the debates on value Campbell's 4 more years makes him one of the most negative value contracts that Edmonton is gonna need to make a huge overpayment to move.
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
“What have they done” idk TK has been an all-star that just scored at a PPG last year at only 26 and is on a cheap contract for 2 more years and Hart is an established goalie at only 24 putting up decent numbers on an absolute tire fire. It’s like people don’t even think before speaking 😂😂😂😂😂


Ppg over 60 games, his career high in points in 61, and he's only been point per game once in 7 seasons
Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Konecny just had his best statistical season and finished 91 in the league in scoring. Hart is a good goalie but certainly not a star. Not sure how you can expect 2+ firsts for either player when much better players haven't garnered that return


Ur right they won’t get 2 firsts for either realistically but they won’t except this terrible offer either they will laugh it off the phone. Campbell has more negative value than probably 95% of the league lol. Good luck moving that and getting 2 players that would instantly help ur team and pay pennies for all of it
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Ppg over 60 games, his career high in points in 61, and he's only been point per game once in 7 seasons


If our players aren’t worth anything why do you want them?
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Jun. 12, 2023 at 11:51 p.m.
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Konecny just had his best statistical season and finished 91 in the league in scoring. Hart is a good goalie but certainly not a star. Not sure how you can expect 2+ firsts for either player when much better players haven't garnered that return


You're the seller and can hold out a bid war. That's the price they want, probably won't get it.

They have no real reason to trade Hart, he's young, played over 200 games at 24, the age most goalies make their first NHL start, and an RFA. They have full control and if they don't get their overpayment they don't need to move him.

TK is a former NHL all-star who can help bolster any team's offense. Guy has two more years on a decently friendly deal. He's shown to be a highly talented player when the gears are turning and if on a more competitive team his scoring would increase heavily.

Buyers gotta pay a lot if they want these players, but this is a barter's system where prices always change.

In this deal, the increase in price comes solely for that horrendous Campbell contract.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:12 a.m.
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
If our players aren’t worth anything why do you want them?


I'm saying they aren't worth 2+ firsts, are you thick?
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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I'm saying they aren't worth 2+ firsts, are you thick?

You can say whatever you want I couldn’t care less it’s irrelevant lol. GMs set their ask. They don’t have to trade the players if they get offered a terrible offer like this.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
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You're the seller and can hold out a bid war. That's the price they want, probably won't get it.

They have no real reason to trade Hart, he's young, played over 200 games at 24, the age most goalies make their first NHL start, and an RFA. They have full control and if they don't get their overpayment they don't need to move him.

TK is a former NHL all-star who can help bolster any team's offense. Guy has two more years on a decently friendly deal. He's shown to be a highly talented player when the gears are turning and if on a more competitive team his scoring would increase heavily.

Buyers gotta pay a lot if they want these players, but this is a barter's system where prices always change.

In this deal, the increase in price comes solely for that horrendous Campbell contract.


Honestly, I agree about the Campbell contract being atrocious but they're getting a lot back. I could see the 3rd being swapped for Bourgault but I don't wanna hear that he's worth more since he's an all-star since the system to become one is a joke. He's 7 years into his career with 1ppg season and it was 61 pts in 60 games. TK is probably worth Broberg and a late first (obviously depends on the buyers/sellers but in a fair market). Hart is probably worth a first and a 3rd and that's solely based on name value at this point. I'm not the biggest believer in GSAA but his is negative over his career, I do believe he's a top 25 goalie though he hasn't had much of an opportunity to prove it over an extended period of time. So, we're at the return here minus Campbell for the two players, could something be added? Absolutely, but this certainly isn't a terrible package
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
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You can say whatever you want I couldn’t care less it’s irrelevant lol. GMs set their ask. They don’t have to trade the players if they get offered a terrible offer like this.


Enjoy the rebuild 👍
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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Enjoy the rebuild 👍


Enjoy wasting the greatest player of all time lol will be a great stain on the franchise when McDavid inevitably forced out because the rest of the team and org aside from Drai is a dumpster fire and then you will be right back where we are
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:26 a.m.
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Enjoy wasting the greatest player of all time lol will be a great stain on the franchise when McDavid inevitably forced out because the rest of the team and org aside from Drai is a dumpster fire and then you will be right back where we are


Not even an Oilers fan, Philly is a joke of an organization. Going to be a long time before they're competitive again. At least Oilers fans get to enjoy good hockey
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
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Not even an Oilers fan, Philly is a joke of an organization. Going to be a long time before they're competitive again. At least Oilers fans get to enjoy good hockey


Yikes a Leafs fan 😂😂😂 isn’t it sad that Philly is a “joke” and yet we have the same amount of playoff series wins in the last decade even tho we have only been in the playoffs 3 of the last 10 years? That’s a funny joke to me! Imagine having some of the best players in the world and winning the same amount in the playoffs as a “joke” 😂😂
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:34 a.m.
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Honestly, I agree about the Campbell contract being atrocious but they're getting a lot back. I could see the 3rd being swapped for Bourgault but I don't wanna hear that he's worth more since he's an all-star since the system to become one is a joke. He's 7 years into his career with 1ppg season and it was 61 pts in 60 games. TK is probably worth Broberg and a late first (obviously depends on the buyers/sellers but in a fair market). Hart is probably worth a first and a 3rd and that's solely based on name value at this point. I'm not the biggest believer in GSAA but his is negative over his career, I do believe he's a top 25 goalie though he hasn't had much of an opportunity to prove it over an extended period of time. So, we're at the return here minus Campbell for the two players, could something be added? Absolutely, but this certainly isn't a terrible package


Its not a terrible package by any means, I would add Bourgault though. My biggest detractor is always Campbell. I do agree that the All-Star title doesn't really add much value, its kind of just a bragging right more than anything. I don't see Edmonton needing to add all of their picks and prospects for this.

Logistically speaking I would say a base of TK for Broberg + 2023 1st and a 2nd. Feel free for either team to manipulate it.

Hart is a much more complex case given standings, non-stat based value on potential, and timeline placement. If he weren't such a complex cog I would say he'd fetch a 1st and Bourgault and another B+ level prospect.

These are all bases I expect to increase in value based on other teams bids and possible desperations.

If I was Edmonton I'd focus on more of a pursuit of a defensive upgrade. I don't think they should give up on Skinner after one bad playoff performance.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.
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Yikes a Leafs fan 😂😂😂 isn’t it sad that Philly is a “joke” and yet we have the same amount of playoff series wins in the last decade even tho we have only been in the playoffs 3 of the last 10 years? That’s a funny joke to me! Imagine having some of the best players in the world and winning the same amount in the playoffs as a “joke” 😂😂


I'd cheer for the Leafs over the Flyers any day pal. At least they put together a quality team every year, couple embarrassing losses, couple tough opponents, that's playoff hockey. Happy to know they'll be back in the mix once again next year while Philly will be out of the conversation before the season even starts with no clear path out of the basement.
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.
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Its not a terrible package by any means, I would add Bourgault though. My biggest detractor is always Campbell. I do agree that the All-Star title doesn't really add much value, its kind of just a bragging right more than anything. I don't see Edmonton needing to add all of their picks and prospects for this.

Logistically speaking I would say a base of TK for Broberg + 2023 1st and a 2nd. Feel free for either team to manipulate it.

Hart is a much more complex case given standings, non-stat based value on potential, and timeline placement. If he weren't such a complex cog I would say he'd fetch a 1st and Bourgault and another B+ level prospect.

These are all bases I expect to increase in value based on other teams bids and possible desperations.

If I was Edmonton I'd focus on more of a pursuit of a defensive upgrade. I don't think they should give up on Skinner after one bad playoff performance.


I don't disagree with anything you're saying, just heard some TK and Hart rumours and thought since Philly is tanking they might be a good landing spot for the Campbell contract.

Edmonton should definitely add another top 4D and add to their bottom 6 rather than top 6 but this group would be insanely fun to watch, win or lose
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
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I don't disagree with anything you're saying, just heard some TK and Hart rumours and thought since Philly is tanking they might be a good landing spot for the Campbell contract.

Edmonton should definitely add another top 4D and add to their bottom 6 rather than top 6 but this group would be insanely fun to watch, win or lose


I'd see your reason for Campbell, but that deal seems so bad that even bottom feeders don't want it unless they get a king's ransom for it.

And I don't want my favorite team to be stuck with it, that too.
Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:50 a.m.
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I'd see your reason for Campbell, but that deal seems so bad that even bottom feeders don't want it unless they get a king's ransom for it.

And I don't want my favorite team to be stuck with it, that too.


Fair enough! Really too bad that Edmonton did this twice in a row, rest of the hockey world deserves to watch McDavid and Drai play with a more solid team
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Jun. 13, 2023 at 12:51 a.m.
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Fair enough! Really too bad that Edmonton did this twice in a row, rest of the hockey world deserves to watch McDavid and Drai play with a more solid team


100% agree.
 
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