Wings pass, they aren't interested in either player and one of the players literally doesn't want to play in Detroit

Ohhhhhhhhhhh

That's correct so switch teams for those 2 players

Good grief.....more leaf scraps posing as value

Timmins isnt worth a 2nd

Ovichnikov has gone back to Russia and is worth pretty much nothing

Flames aren't trading Ruzicka. They are extremely tight on cap and he is paid less than league min.

10-4 rubber ducky. Point is, Leafs offload those guys.

Fair enough. Was just a toss in here.

Right on. Timmins has potential on a good contract so idk why this is a trigger for ya

I think its because 2 other teams (and now 3 if you count TOR) has decided timmins just doesn;t play defense. He was acquired for less than a 2nd, didn;t dress at all in the playoffs, so just dont think hes worth a 2nd.

Its not timmins thats the "trigger", its the constant leaf posts having a roster clear out of marginal value commodities for actual value.

I dont think timmins has good value, but some. I dont think Abrueze has good value, but some. I don;t think Samsonov's rights have muych value, but some (especially if the leafs cant dump or buy out Murray, because everyone knows they cant re-sign Samsonov), Ovichnikov since he didnt like NA and went back to Russia has really no value,

but some Leaf posters put some of these guys in QUANTITY in almost every ACGM, like they're just having a clean out. And in every trade they acquire the more valuable piece because they are offering that quantity.

(And then go out of their weay to sign/re-signa bunch of marginal players that will never make an NHL impact: Hollowell, Zohorna, etc...I mean why? Theyre not prospects anymore and chances are they'll never even get a callup, since you signed a dozen better options)

Again another post from Leaf fan telling other teams needs so they can offload bad contracts and get better players.

It’s really not this serious my brother

They really aren’t bad contracts, these are good players

Detroit has 11 left handed defense under contract already, several of which can play both sides. Brodie isn't a meaningful addition to the team. Jarnkrok was also traded away from Detroit some years ago. The Wings just aren't the right fit for that trade

Why does every leafs guy on here try and trade Jarnkrok? This guy is literally making peanuts and can provide versatility in your top 9.

I agree with a lot of what you said except about the Leafs not being able to afford Samsonov. They could sign him to a 5M deal and keep Murray, thry just won't have much room to make changes. I think at least he nets a 2nd+3rd up to two 2nds. Maybe even could get a late 1st in the right scenario.

In context of a Scheifele trade, he's definitely not going to be the center piece, probably the 2024 1st+Minten+Samsonov for Scheifele+(an unwanted RFA or prospect or a 4th-7th). Would be an expensive "3C" rental though.

Everyone passes and North Korea nukes the GTA

Brodie did not play well in the playoffs and he is older than what the Wings would want. Plus he might play the right side but he shoots LH. And Timmins for a 2nd? He maybe good but surely not good enough for a 2nd round pick?

Again, you want to off load what you deem good players for better players all while getting something or no having to pay to do so. That is how the NHL works.

Keep Brodie and Järnkrok please. These trades are annoying.

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