I like a few of the additions. Hall and Smith are valued about right. This team has 4 good lines.

I do question the trade downs.
So you have the Pens losing around 30 points to lose Petry. That is equivalent to a high 3rd. The value is probably a little high but then you replaced Petry with Dumba who had a worse season? Dumba is younger and had a little more offense last year but I don't know if he isn't Petry 2.0. I see that you only gave him 2 years, but I would estimate he wants at least 5. It might be better to ride with Petry, but it could be a personal call.

The other trade down was a valuation of -20 points or essentially trading a middle 3rd for Rutta. I don't think Nash will want to give up assets for Rutta, but I could be wrong.

All, in all, this would probably a net be a good outcome for the Pens.

CHI probably accepts. Not sure there are better or more affordable replacement options available for PIT, though. If the cap situation were different, PIT could probably get a decent haul for Petry. But, if PIT needs to move him now, this is probably the best you could hope for.

I personally don’t like that deal for the Hawks, taking on two year of Petry who is 35 at $6.25m would really limit what I would send back in the deal. At very most I could see flipping first round picks but I definitely wouldn’t be offering more then that.

Can't see Chicago adding $12m+ in salary over 2 years to move up 5 spots.

I can't see NSH doing that. Maybe depending on who is available at 19OA, but trading away the 2nd and taking on a cap dump for 2 more years to me isn't really worth move, especially because we have no room for him. NSH has multiple LD prospects who look ready for the jump like Stastney and even Del Gaizo. If anything NSH is looking to move out D, not take more on.

thanks for your insights!

yeah I tried to get some cap space moving those two dmen and trading down. I'm really interested in understanding how you 'graded' with points those deals.

all in all I believe I put a better roster together hoping to contend for the cup. also I gave only two years to dumba even if I wanted to give him only one year cuz I wasn't sold on him either. do you have any suggestion? could maybe Shayne Gostisbehere be a better fit? or who else?

yeah I agree. I'm not sold on dumba either. maybe Gostisbehere, or via trade...

well hawks will have plenty of cap space and could get a decent veteran with leadership and most importantly trade 5 spots up and get the guy they want. obviously the deal implies there will be a guy the hawks like a lot and think other teams might pick him.

Using the 14th overall pick to dump Petry just to give Dumba 5mil AAV doesn't seem like a good move to me. NSH probably doesn't accept, I think BOS and SEA might. I like Schmaltz, that's a hefty price, but I do like him.

Big risk on that Hill contract

Bruins aren't retaining on Hall and getting next to nothing in return

yeah obviously depends on the guy you are going to get. if Nashville won't do it ill propose the same trade to blues or sharks. somebody will accept this, it doesn't look that bad to me lol

also rutta isnt that big of a cap dumb I believe teams will have some relative interest in the size and experience. look for example the contract they gave gudbranson who is worse...

yeah the dumba signing is meh you are right, was hoping in a bounce back year which is more probable than Petry having one. but still that's the path I would take, signing another D. who do you have in mind, UFA? trade? who?

that deal can also be proposed to sharks and blues somebody there accepts (sharks and 29th blues in particular)

schmaltz is probably a little overpaid but i think his play could have an even bigger impact than rakell had

honestly those 4 line look fire.

yeah on hill you are probably right, would you rather sign jarry maybe to a 2/3yx5mil contract, get another goalie?

2 3rds plus legare (former 3rd) for a 1mil retention and saving 4mil cap space doesn't seem too bad

Yeah, the Gudbranson contract makes me feel better about some of the bad contracts NSH has. Rutta definitely has value, it is just minimal for NSH consider how deep their D pipeline is. That said, from the draft, if NSH picks up Danielson at 15 and if Perrault or Cristall are still available at 19OA, I'm 100% taking this deal, and I'll move Lauzon as part of another deal.

I don't really think Petry needs to have a bounce back year though. That would imply that he had a bad season this past year. Dumba is probably due for some kind of bounce back sure, but even his bounce back isn't better than Petry imo. If you were saving a lot of cap then I could see the logic - that's why I specified "at 5mil AAV". For 2RHD, Petry replacement? Not sure there's really anyone they can realistically get to be honest. And getting rid of Petry is going to be pretty difficult so I don't really see it even happening anyways. But in this scenario, if it does, maybe they could upgrade the 2LHD instead and sign a cheaper 2 RHD? Not sure. I just don't think there's a lot of 2RHD to be had. Maybe they can trade him for Marino(Hextall joke lol)

Would they? You're essentially trading Rutta for a 2nd, no?

For Schmaltz, I meant the trade price, not AAV. I think his AAV is fine. And agree, he would definitely have a bigger impact than Rakell.

Oh the lines look good - I'm not trying to say they don't. It's a solid team.

Assuming the choices are Jarry at 3x5 or Hill at 5x4.5 - yes I would definitely take Jarry. I'm not even against Hill, I would just hope the contract would be less term and a little less AAV. Only other UFA options I really see would be Anderson, Varlamov, or Korpisalo. A lot of this depends on what these guys would cost too, which we don't really no for sure.

yeah I guess I agree with you about the petry situation. and this team could be built the same-ish way even with petry instead of dumba. the only think I would say is that probably as a 6mil player I expected a bit more of him... I guess also injuries didn't help.

I'm trading down again in the rutta deal very similar to the petry deal.

yeah hill is a risk cuz who knows what he'll do next year, I signed him over the other guys that you mentioned cuz I think he was the better suited to be a starter. another idea could be trade desmith and have a varlamov korpisalo duo.

as for jarry I'm really tired of his injuries even if he is probably the better goalie out of all of these, and also read he was looking for a 6yx5.5-6mil contract which looks like too much to me.

It definitely could - that's kind of why I brought it up. I think you're only a couple hundred dollars over if Petry comes back - if my quick math is correct. For sure, I can agree that his contract and AAV are still bad, even if he had a solid season.

You are trading down - I just think NSH would view Rutta as a cap dump. And therefore the payment of taking Rutta is moving up in the draft. so I don't think they would want to add the 2nd. That was the way I looked at it.

He could be - although he's never been a starter and the others have. I think Varlamov/Korpisalo could be a solid tandem, depending on the pricing of them. I get the Jarry and injury frustration. He's played the 6th most games over the past 3 years so I do think it's a bit overblown though. Oh that's definitely too much I agree - I would definitely not give him that. I'd try like 3x4.5 - maybe 5mil max. Anything more I'd explore other options.

yeah you are probably right is more of the timing of the injuries... but nonetheless I agree on those jarry numbers, but with keeping jarry I might look to upgrade the back up, not sure if we should have the same tandem also this season.

Yeah - they were rough timing. Plus him AND Desmith getting hurt at the same time right before the playoffs makes it look even worse haha. I have no issues with keeping the same tandem, but also none with making changes. If they can get a good upgrade without spending too much or giving up assets - works for me.

Legare had 19 point in 68 AHL games, he's not worth anything. If the Bruins trade Hall, they aren't going to retain salary on him

well many other bruins fans don't seem to agree with you on this site, I still have a mil of cap available so no big deal at all. thanks for hall !

I would try to get Tanev out of Cal. He is on the last year of his deal but he is a great shut down dman. It depends on what the Pens want.

Petry is a better puck mover and more about controlling play. Tanev is better at staying at home and preventing goals / shots.

Ghost has flashes of great play, and could be an option. I am a big fan of De Haan. His advanced numbers are dynamite. I think he would be great with Smith on the 3rd pair (though they would both be LHD).

I like Brody in Tor, Addison in Minn, OEL as a bounceback candidate. There are options if Pit moves away from Petry.

All of that said, I'm not sure I would. He has a decent chance to bounce back offensively. Defensively, he was fine.

For the picks value, I use this site. It seems to have good data.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/amp/