It's not really ignorance. What's the point of ever trading if the optimal solution is building strictly internally? You get your star players from the draft, and fill the complementary pieces from FA/Trade. All rebuilding teams eventually reach a point where they have surplus and are okay giving up a measure of it to help their team.

Think it's important to realize that some of the better pieces of our prospect pool, and many of the prospects Ottawa may target, solve what I believe to be the biggest hole from this team; physicality.

Soderblom, Mazur, Kasper; throw any of these guys in the line up and you'll get the 2nd most physical guy on the top-12 (Rasmussen being #1). Obviously, some fans won't be able to see below the surface and just think they're gonna be superb players. Thats at least the reason why I'm hesitant.

If you watched the Ottawa-Detroit games; it shows what I preach.

I don't think many people (who want to see long term success) would mind this.

I am completely on the side of wings fans when it comes to trading pick 9, Kaspar or Raymond. But the next tier of players? The chances that their ceilings are above a Konency or Cat are pretty small. Giving up a pick 17 and a few other pieces seems like it would have only beneficial results for the wings both in the short term and long term.

This is more so a "every team has their fans that are frugal," type of ignorance, but whatever.

I mean to Philly, it wouldn't hurt, but one thing I do not want to do is make Ottawa more physical (re: the two game back to back). You can have all of the talent in the world, but that's meaningless if you get thrown around physically and turtle.

This is definitely true. Why its more noticeable is not everyone's young pool of talent wallet is as loaded as yours. So giving a 20 dollar bill when you have 200 shouldn't be harder than giving 20 when you have 50.

All I want is the team to fill the 2nd and 3rd line wings spots and get a goalie . And I’m not taking straight picks and betting on some ufas to sign in ottawa unless it a big overpay. That’s unrealistic

That's fine. Just like how Ottawa doesn't want to bend completely to Detroit's needs, Detroit doesn't want to bend to Ottawa's.

What happened man, I thought we were in a chill spot like 3 days ago, now all I see is you throwing shade and bashing Wings players... thought we were cool man

What twitter does to a mfer

How did you turn this rebuild has only been going on for 4 years into a decade? We literally hired Yzerman just over 4 years ago. We have gone 7 years missing the playoffs. Considering the mess Holland left, I would say he only hit on 2 out of 28 pinks in his last 3 drafts. Not saying Rasmussen was a total miss, just not really a hit for his draft spot. Then there was all the bad contracts. We also haven't done anything other than stay put or move down in the draft lottery as well. 2017 we dropped from #7 - #9. 2018 from #5 - #6. 2019 #4 - #6. 2020 #1 - #4. 2021 we dropped from #5 - #6 from Seattle entering the league. Not overly bitter because there's nothing that can be done, just stating that we haven't been able to draft that top 3 player yet. How much different would this team look with Stutzle instead of Raymond cause that's who Yzerman has at #1 in 2020? Just things like that means we are going to have to wait just a bit longer. It will likely be a decade before we make playoffs again. Still not as long as Buffalo though lol.

We are 😉 . You guys will be good I acc don’t think you guys should make a big acquisition. Just trade up for Sandin Pellikka or Willander and take Moore/Benson/Dvorsky with the 9th

Honestly man that's what I've been saying and after Yzerman's presser, seems to be the plan. Obviously he has to inquire about players and if the price is right for Detroit absolutely.

I would be all for that scenario. Willander being my target. Tough to find a partner though since Vancouver, Buffalo and Arizona all need RHD. I wouldn't hate taking him at 9 but just seems early but so did Seider at #6.

You could take a RD at 9 and some high potential forwards at 17, 41, 42 and 43

I think that ends up being the plan unless someone drops that was expected to be gone like Leanord. Next draft is supposed to be heavy with good defencemen as well so maybe we take our two picks and grab them there? We also need another good goalie prospect and hope we grab one with our seconds.

Holy **** look at jfresh last tweet. Sounds like Boston are making a franchise altering trade. Impacts their 1st next year

I don't have Twitter lol. Please elaborate for me though. I'm guessing Marchand out the door?

Nvm it was a bait tweet apparently they’re just trying to move into the top 2 rounds of the draft

This is exactly what we should do. I am dreading the possibility that we trade for anyone not named Lindholm, Nylander or Connor.

That's why I don't do the Twitter lol. Get worked up for nothing. Too many people can say whatever with no consequence.

I mean, he was picked 30 and is a full time NHLer. He’s no star but he’s a decent young player.

Yeah, I guess no one was caught up in the hype of potentially landing the steal of the draft (but like Wqrrior suggested seems like scouting departments go it right to pass on him) . Interestingly enough though, a lot of the players from that draft who are full time NHLers are the defenseman, some are still looking to establish themselves as top 4 guys. The forward group does have guys who seem to be on the rise, so who knows maybe one of these guys could still become a top 6 player.