So you're imploring another team to not do what you're about to do?

Slafkovsky 1OA
Dach 3OA
Dubois 3OA
Suzuki 13OA
Caufield 15OA
Connor 17OA

Please explain your statement?

the 5OA pick is the only decent piece in the whole deal, Zero chance you're getting both Pierre-Luc Dubois and Kyle Connor for that offer.

Thanks for your opinion. You've been heard sir.

Theres no way we get PLD at this point, Kings have set the market by agreeing to give up Vilardi. We'd need to give Dach + Anderdon/RHP and a 8.5/9M$ extension so thats a big no for most habs fan and for Hughes. That being said I dont understand why the Jets dont go for futures, as if Vilardi isnt gonna do the exact same thing as PLD and others before him once his bridge deal expires.

It's such a crappy way for a franchise to behave. They could sell 3 years of pain for 15 years of competing.

Vilardi... Moving a player to Center and then expecting him to play against McDavid & Crosby? This is gonna be a disaster.

Montreal would likely have to add a bit more (maybe Mesar/Mailloux).

That is a really good top 6, though. Hopefully Connor would want to stay around longer than his 3 year contract, which is when Montreal really starts competing. But given that he is an American, I might b concerned he would want to go south of the border in 3 years via free agency.

I think it depends if Montreal looks like they can win pretty soon. If they make a deep run in 2025... He might decide to stay?

EDIT: I would add a 2025 1st to close the deal.

That's a super aggressive offer for a team that is not yet competitive enough to be that aggressive... they don't even have proven goaltending and 4 of your top defenseman are under 23 years old. Which is exactly the point @gm_jeanguy is making.

I think that's a very fair commentary Shane!

I think the "logic" for me is that, after making this deal, I don't think we're missing pieces to be competitive, I think we're missing development time.

I don't buy that Monty can't do what Hill just did. I don't think we need Carey Price/Askarov/Hart or other superstar Goalie to be competitive. Any serviceable starter will do.

As for defense, I actually think our LD is fine ( I believe in Guhle, Math, Xhekaj, Harris ) and our RD definitely needs a bump, but I'd.like to see what Barron & Kovacevic can do with another year before hitting the Panic button. Adding 1 RD is something that can be addressed through Free Agency or through Trade.

As for the forward group, I believe this top 9 has everything you need to be competitive, and I don't really think many would debate that. Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf could all use another year to cook, but they can do that while winning some games as easily as losing.

So yeah, maybe you think my perspective on this team is incredibly optimistic, but I think we've had 2 years of historic man games lost and we should factor in a 25% drop in man games lost this year

Will not happen. LA is already moving pieces to make space for a $9M contract

I got taken in by that yesterday, but not today! Fool me once...

I also believe in Montembault and our defense core in the future, but I don't believe they are ready next season so I don't see any value in pushing for a guy like Connor who may or may not stay with the habs in 3 years.

Take this group, add another strong draft, get a year closer to some of their contracts coming off the books while the cap starts to significantly increase, that's your time to get aggressive IMO.

That would be the non-aggressive approach, I agree. I just think there is an exhaustion about losing.

Absolutely, but that's the logic in Winnipeg right now that you are claiming they should avoid. The Jets already spent 5 or 6 years building this franchise when they returned, they've had one maybe 2 good runs - they don't seem ready or willing to tear it down again. In all honesty, they gave the Stanley Cup champion's a good series (until game 5) considering injuries to Ehler's, Morrissey, Scheifele etc.

I'm sick of the losing too, but in your own words, 3 years of pain for 15 years of being competitive. We've been bad for 2 years, we can handle one more I think.

With Michkov we have to wait another 3... I'd be ok with it if we were gonna wait for an play in the UFA sandbox in 2024... But I am not sure we can win that game.

I'm of the belief now that Michkov will not be MTL's pick, they are high on Leonard and I see the appeal. He legitimately looks like a top line power forward.



If not Leonard, then they could likely try to trade down and get one of Dvorsky, Reinbacher, or Benson + whatever else they get in the trade.

'' dont put yourslef in middle of the pack like habs ''

then goes on to do moves that put them in middle of the pack. Follow your own advice!!

this defense and goaltending is nowhere near good enough to compete!!

It's not confirmed. LAK never had the money for a 9M extension. Right away it was easy to see the holes in the story. I have been beating this drum since Fraudgnotta tried to spin this as done. He's a clickbaiter and the other sources are jets beat writers that are negotiating Chevy's wants through the media. This whole thing has been Brisson, Chevy trying to leverage through the media.

They are kids. Give them some reps and they are gonna get better.

They moved Durzi and will move more if need be. They need to resign Vilardi and Kupari; of which either could be part of the trade

when you've finished last and fifth worst in teh last 2 years, its not the time to compete. they need time, you are rushing them as montreal.done in the past 10 years and while for some reason saying that we should not repeat the mistakes of past years.

stop trying to rush things, its a rebuild! it takes time! dont do the same mistake over and over!

Exactly what Drambui said. The team is better, but still not good enough, and ends up in the no man's land. Fans can handle another 2-3 years of mediocrity. MTL market will be red hot by then.

I'm not rushing them. Guhle/Harris/Barron played 18-20 minutes a night last season. They will do it again this season. Nothing I will say will change that.

I am not rushing them into the NHL. I am expecting that they get better with the same ice time.

yes but they are not top pair D now, and maybe never (i want them to be but i dont know) . and yes they will get better. But we dont have the knowledge that they will all be good enough to start trowing the future away, thats a short sighted move. 3 years ago people were comparing norlinder to lidstrom. let them grow then suround them. we need to draft our own star players with our high picks, not trade the future away for star players when we dont have the backbone of our team yet.