Yeah that isnt happening for nashville.

Pens decline. They need to start replenishing their system eventually...

Eventually, think they start now or give it a last go or two? They should start now but I think they try for it in the last few years.

Leafs would do that yeah

Why didn't Yzerman think of this?

Pens definitely don't need another D-man in his 30's with a NTC

Cause he's not me obviously. Or maybe this is his plan? I guess we find out on Wednesday.

Of course they do, what else would they want?

This would be worse for NSH than the last time they were involved in a Karlsson trade.

These GMs better wake up and do something. It feels like it's been more dead than usual so far this offseason.

Just starting to get going here. I think this cap really has them restricted.

Also seems there are a lot of teams that should be fully rebuilding and just want to "Re-Tool." Re-tooling is usually an unequivocal failure and just postpones the rebuild. But rebuilding teams just unload all useful assets on roster for futures and more trades would come from that. Re-tooling teams usually want hockey trades and those are much harder to do.

Our last GM would love a guy like that.
We fired him
😂

I think some of those retool teams like Winnipeg and Calgary might have financial reasons to try and keep it going. Sometimes the business side interferes for the smaller market teams that we don't see. I remember, this was like 10 years ago or something, I read an article saying that the Sharks needed to make the second round of playoffs just to be profitable. Now obviously things change but I think there is more of that than we know. Also the COVID season and all that stuff would have affected even the stronger financial teams. I did do some light reading into the Sharks actually on Forbes and they were a team that was hurt hard. Teams that rebuild usually lose immediate support so if they are still trying to recover from those years they need people in those seats spending money.

Really though at 2.375M it's not a hard pill to swallow. I actually got quite a bit of positive feedback when I first proposed this trade from as bunch of Pens fans.

Also Dubas hates buyouts and will avoid them at all costs. His words as well, just read that the other day but I can't remember where.

We already have 9 NHL defensemen on the roster. It's not that I don't like the trade idea, we just need a different player than Chiarot.

No doubt from an ownership perspective it is a much wiser use of funds to hope for a Florida like Cinderella postseason from a pretender rather than a total rebuild that optimistically takes at least half a decade to turn around.

I count 5 maybe 6 with Smith, just saying

Letang
Petry
Rutta
Ruhwedel
Friedman
Pettersson
POJ
Smith

We will probably let Dumolin and Kubalik walk

Very ambitious!
It’s not horrible but that’s a lot of deals to get from A to B

Friedman is barely NHL player. Petry doesn't count in this

That is very true and he did say, "Again I know it's not realistic but it's fun to dream."

Swapping Petry for Chiarot still equals too many D. If we take on a D-man, it will be someone waiver exempt or a #2 guy like Hanafin. It will not be a 3rd pairing D-man who is over 30 with trade protection who was a -31. Sorry, but that's just reality.

Yeah we ain’t doing none of those trades but it would be dope - Have some fun with this draft simulator…

https://draftprospectshockey.com/draftsim/#/

I’m mentally preparing myself for disappointment on Wednesday. I hope we don’t trade up and I hope we don’t trade 1st rounders for NHL players.

There are so many players in the top 50 of this draft that I would be thrilled with. If anything I want us to move down and get more 1st & 2nd rounders.

I would love to see us get one more first somehow