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Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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Its a no from TO, its thought provoking though but Marner offers so much more.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Its a no from TO, its thought provoking though but Marner offers so much more.


Does he really though? Both were Selke finalists. Hischier is a ppg center and Marner is an above ppg winger. Hischier is on a much more friendly contract for the type of player he is. Sorry, but as a Toronto fan, NJD doesn't touch this with a ten foot pole.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
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4 years of a selke nominated centre at 7.25m cap is worth more than 2 years of a selke nominated winger at 10.9m cap.

As a Leafs fan I take this every day of the week.

New Jersey doesn't and shouldn't though.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.
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average leafs fan
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:23 p.m.
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yeah absolutely not
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:26 p.m.
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Knew this was made by a Toronto fan before I even checked
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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Does he really though? Both were Selke finalists. Hischier is a ppg center and Marner is an above ppg winger. Hischier is on a much more friendly contract for the type of player he is. Sorry, but as a Toronto fan, NJD doesn't touch this with a ten foot pole.


So you are one of the "hate your own" leaf fans. Hischier has never actually scored at a point per game. Came close once, Marner has been a point per game player since the 2nd half of his 2nd season and has been at a 100 point pace for 3 years in a row. And is a selke finalist as a winger.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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Knew this was made by a Toronto fan before I even checked


Right because all Leaf players are worthless eh? No one wants any leaf players. Or want them but only if it costs essentially nothing. This site is stupid
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.
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Right because all Leaf players are worthless eh? No one wants any leaf players. Or want them but only if it costs essentially nothing. This site is stupid


Read the room.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.
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Hischier










Marner
Lazar
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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Read the room.


I know what room I am in, find me a trade were non leaf fans say it's fair in which TO doesn't get screwed. This is probably the closest but it's not enough for Marner. It's shocking how a guy who's scored at a 100 point pace for 3 years in a row and has been on a 90 point pace since the 2nd half of his 2nd season in the league. Is a selke finalist and still, no one wants him. What's that tell you?
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
So you are one of the "hate your own" leaf fans. Hischier has never actually scored at a point per game. Came close once, Marner has been a point per game player since the 2nd half of his 2nd season and has been at a 100 point pace for 3 years in a row. And is a selke finalist as a winger.


Tell me why exactly is New Jersey trading their (yes, ppg) center for a much more expensive winger they don't need? Both Hischier and Marner are elite defensively, but the Devils don't need wingers. And with Hischier's steal of a contract and the fact that he plays a more important position, the Devils just don't even acknowledge this move.

I don't "hate my own players", I'm just not a homer. I can read context.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
I know what room I am in, find me a trade were non leaf fans say it's fair in which TO doesn't get screwed. This is probably the closest but it's not enough for Marner. It's shocking how a guy who's scored at a 100 point pace for 3 years in a row and has been on a 90 point pace since the 2nd half of his 2nd season in the league. Is a selke finalist and still, no one wants him. What's that tell you?


I think if a hockey forum gets you this riled up you maybe shouldn't be here lol. This trade doesn't make sense for New Jersey. It's extremely counterintuitive. I said read the room for a reason. If you're the only outlier, that should probably tell you something.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Hischier










Marner
Lazar


Marner has the same defensive capacity as Hischier. But he has also shown to be a bigger point producer. So to say that Marner is closer to Lazar than he is to Hischier is nuts.

Now I believe Hischier has more value than Marner because he is a centre AND he is signed for 4 years versus 2 years AND his cap is 7.25m versus 10.9m.

But if caps and term were equal, Marner would have more value. But it wouldn't be by much.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.
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Right because all Leaf players are worthless eh? No one wants any leaf players. Or want them but only if it costs essentially nothing. This site is stupid


This guy has never agreed with a deal in his whole acgm life, disagrees with everything never has any basis for the argument just trashes everyone, worst kind of leaf fan but hard to deal with so many of these types
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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Marner has the same defensive capacity as Hischier. But he has also shown to be a bigger point producer. So to say that Marner is closer to Lazar than he is to Hischier is nuts.

Now I believe Hischier has more value than Marner because he is a centre AND he is signed for 4 years versus 2 years AND his cap is 7.25m versus 10.9m.

But if caps and term were equal, Marner would have more value. But it wouldn't be by much.


Which essentially means Marner and hischier are equal but hischier under less money and at center is more valuable, what a lush
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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This guy has never agreed with a deal in his whole acgm life, disagrees with everything never has any basis for the argument just trashes everyone, worst kind of leaf fan but hard to deal with so many of these types


If you're referring to me, I'd like to let you know I'm not a Leafs fan.

If you're referring to RipNasty, then yeah. It's normal behaviour.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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Tell me why exactly is New Jersey trading their (yes, ppg) center for a much more expensive winger they don't need? Both Hischier and Marner are elite defensively, but the Devils don't need wingers. And with Hischier's steal of a contract and the fact that he plays a more important position, the Devils just don't even acknowledge this move.

I don't "hate my own players", I'm just not a homer. I can read context.


Everyone on this site says the same stuff, no one apparently wants a 100 point winger, and selke finalist. Why? Explain that to me, because literally no fan from any other team ever proposes a fair trade for him.

Why would jersey do this? Well I agree it doesn't make much sense for them at this point with their wealth of offence, but they undoubtedly improve. They get a better player who is still young and is much better offensively. Hischier's best season, last season, is the closest he's come to a ppg, but in fact did not reach it. Other teams would benefit from Marner more but come on. He's been chosen as the best right winger in the league twice now (1st team all-star) and is just entering his prime. But it's capfriendly so he is an overpaid bum no one wants. It's just insane at this point.
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:39 p.m.
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If you're referring to me, I'd like to let you know I'm not a Leafs fan.

If you're referring to RipNasty, then yeah. It's normal behaviour.


Yeah
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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I think if a hockey forum gets you this riled up you maybe shouldn't be here lol. This trade doesn't make sense for New Jersey. It's extremely counterintuitive. I said read the room for a reason. If you're the only outlier, that should probably tell you something.


And now the deflecting. No trade involving Marner makes sense unless the other team gets him for less than half he's worth. Same thing for Nylander. Why do you think that is?
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Everyone on this site says the same stuff, no one apparently wants a 100 point winger, and selke finalist. Why? Explain that to me, because literally no fan from any other team ever proposes a fair trade for him.

Why would jersey do this? Well I agree it doesn't make much sense for them at this point with their wealth of offence, but they undoubtedly improve. They get a better player who is still young and is much better offensively. Hischier's best season, last season, is the closest he's come to a ppg, but in fact did not reach it. Other teams would benefit from Marner more but come on. He's been chosen as the best right winger in the league twice now (1st team all-star) and is just entering his prime. But it's capfriendly so he is an overpaid bum no one wants. It's just insane at this point.


I think you're taking things you see on this site too seriously. Keep Marner, and the Devils will keep Hischier.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
This guy has never agreed with a deal in his whole acgm life, disagrees with everything never has any basis for the argument just trashes everyone, worst kind of leaf fan but hard to deal with so many of these types


Lol this is the response from people that don't read anything that doesn't support their opinion. A leaf fan who doesn't agree that any leaf is crap is just trying to fight eh? You are all just mindless drones
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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Elite center > elite winger
Elite center at $7m x 4 >> elite winger at $11m x 2

32 of 32 GMs would take Hischier side.
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Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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Marner has the same defensive capacity as Hischier. But he has also shown to be a bigger point producer. So to say that Marner is closer to Lazar than he is to Hischier is nuts.

Now I believe Hischier has more value than Marner because he is a centre AND he is signed for 4 years versus 2 years AND his cap is 7.25m versus 10.9m.

But if caps and term were equal, Marner would have more value. But it wouldn't be by much.


If you think Hirshier has more value than Marner you are truly lost
Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Elite center > elite winger
Elite center at $7m x 4 >> elite winger at $11m x 2

32 of 32 GMs would take Hischier side.


This site is just stupid
 
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