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Still a Powerhouse

Created by: NoWah49
Team: 2024-25 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2023
Published: Jul. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,500,000
6$2,500,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$900,000
1$2,000,000
1$1,250,000
Trades
COL
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (DAL)
  2. 2025 4th round pick (NYR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$88,500,000$88,097,500$0$0$402,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,750,000$3,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA
$900,000$900,000
LW, C
UFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,850,000$3,850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
G
UFA
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA
$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$847,500$847,500
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
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I doubt CHI has any interest in Girard.
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Jul. 16, 2023 at 8:52 a.m.
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Only one Powerhorse and his names Josh Anderson
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Jul. 16, 2023 at 9:05 a.m.
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Much better to trade Manson than Girard
Jul. 16, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Much better to trade Manson than Girard


TBH its not like you can afford to re-sign Toews
He seems like the natural choice to either move or let go.
Jul. 17, 2023 at 9:25 a.m.
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TBH its not like you can afford to re-sign Toews
He seems like the natural choice to either move or let go.


Oh, I know; but there are lots of Avs fans that think he should be re-signed (I'm not one of them).
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Jul. 17, 2023 at 9:35 a.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Oh, I know; but there are lots of Avs fans that think he should be re-signed (I'm not one of them).


Depends on the number for me. Avs are much more likely to win a cup over the next 3-4 years with Toews on the roster instead of one of Manson/Girard. I'm of the opinion that if they can't come to an agreement on a contract that works by the end of the summer, they should move him for pieces that help them win over the next several years. Not a huge fan of using him as a rental and letting him walk at the end of the season.
Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Depends on the number for me. Avs are much more likely to win a cup over the next 3-4 years with Toews on the roster instead of one of Manson/Girard. I'm of the opinion that if they can't come to an agreement on a contract that works by the end of the summer, they should move him for pieces that help them win over the next several years. Not a huge fan of using him as a rental and letting him walk at the end of the season.


Toews is good but Bo is just as good, if not better plus he's considerably younger. I think people make way too much of his injuries; he's the perfect replacement for Toews and, in all likelihood, the Avs can't keep both of them.

I'm not a huge fan of Toews walking but that's likely what the Avs do
Jul. 17, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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Toews is good but Bo is just as good, if not better plus he's considerably younger. I think people make way too much of his injuries; he's the perfect replacement for Toews and, in all likelihood, the Avs can't keep both of them.

I'm not a huge fan of Toews walking but that's likely what the Avs do


I like Bo too and I'm not all that concerned with his injuries. For me its more of a "Who is more valuable in 3 years? Toews at 7-8M? Or Manson at 4.5M?" Over 8M and I'm not sold on how it fits for the Avs. Anything 7.5M or below feels like a no brainer to keep Toews.

IMO, the ideal Top 4 situation in 3-4 years is:
Byram-Makar
Toews-Girard

I loved the Toews-Girard pairing when Makar was out this past season, and thought it was a look into the future. Maybe as early as this year. If Toews is willing to extend for a number works for the team to bring Gabe off LTIR and ice a 21 man roster next year that only costs them Manson as a cap casualty, then I'm all in. Just not sure that Toews will take enough of a discount to make that work.
 
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