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Created by: alwaysnextyear

Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 16, 2023

Published: Jul. 16, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

A trade like this might make sense at this point. I like Garland, but the glut of wingers on the roster and the rumours that Allvin has been unsuccessfully shopping him for a while point to the lack of trade value for wingers.

If CHI actually wants to start improving their roster (and they should to help insulate Bedard) they might be interested in something like this. For VAN, Johnson's not an ideal target by any means but he fills a role temporarily. Most importantly the deal will open valuable cap space to go after better 3C and D targets next season.

Trades

VAN

Johnson, Tyler

Additional Details:

VAN gets a stop-gap 3C for the year and future cap space.

CHI

Garland, Conor

Additional Details:

CHI gets the better player on a reasonable contract to start building back up around Bedard.

Buyouts

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $146,667

Buried

Tanner Pearson: $2,100,000 ($3,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$83,371,667	$850,000	$850,000	$128,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Miller, J.T. $8,000,000$8,000,000 C, LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Podkolzin, Vasily $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Di Giuseppe, Phillip $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2	Blueger, Teddy $1,900,000$1,900,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 1
	Dries, Sheldon $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 4	Soucy, Carson $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 3	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 3
Cole, Ian $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Hronek, Filip $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Martin, Spencer $762,500$762,500 G UFA - 1
Hirose, Akito $787,500$787,500 LD RFA - 2	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
Irwin, Matt $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2

Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.

Steven_Stamkos

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Seems logical to me

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.

Not_Isles5513

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The Canucks shouldn’t feel pressured to dump Garland due to cap constraints. They would be much better off trading Beau for a 3C with term like Dvorak and seeing what the team looks like with three quality centers.

Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.

alwaysnextyear

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alwaysnextyear

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Quoting: Not_Isles5513

That is another way to go for sure. The problem is the lack of decent C options with term available on the trade market. I'm not huge on Dvorak being the answer to their needs.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: alwaysnextyear

That is another way to go for sure. The problem is the lack of decent C options with term available on the trade market. I'm not huge on Dvorak being the answer to their needs.

I get that, but I do think he’s an option worth considering.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.

Vancity2196

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Quoting: Steven_Stamkos

Seems logical to me

You do realize we can't afford a guy like Tyler Johnston.
Do you think he is a good fit for the Canuck's roster?

Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.

Hawksguy81

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Hawks probably decline. Can't imagine they take those two extra years on Garland's deal for nothing.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.

alwaysnextyear

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alwaysnextyear

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Quoting: Hawksguy81

Hawks probably decline. Can't imagine they take those two extra years on Garland's deal for nothing.

Garland's actually a good player though, so it's not 'nothing' if they want to start surrounding Bedard with better players.

Jul. 16, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.

alwaysnextyear

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alwaysnextyear

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Quoting: Vancity2196

You do realize we can't afford a guy like Tyler Johnston.
Do you think he is a good fit for the Canuck's roster?

I just did it (see cap-compliant roster above).
As for your question; probably not. But if he can provide even moderate value in a bottom 3C or 4C role it might be worth it just to free up the cap space next year.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.

Prime_Jimbo

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This would hurt a bit if this is where Garland's value is seen around the league. Just another kick from the Jimmy B era. I'd Garland play up with JT and Boeser. While Aman gets a chance to center some more offensively talented guys like Beau and Hog. And Hog gets a chance to show he can be effective at both ends of the ice knowing Beau and Aman are solid on the forecheck and the line would carry that responsibility as well.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.

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Garak

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Quoting: alwaysnextyear

Garland's actually a good player though, so it's not 'nothing' if they want to start surrounding Bedard with better players.

Sure Garland is fine. But calling him "the better player" is a stretch. TJ is still great when healthy, and he plays all forward positions well and can win faceoffs. The consistently healthier player might be more accurate, but that has more to do with age and wear and tear than anything. Also, Johnson supposedly brings a lot of elements to the rebuild that CHI likes, as far as culture and work ethic, etc. I think they would be more concerned about the term of Garlands contract than getting a "better" player anyway.

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Jul. 16, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.

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Earth

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Quoting: Garak

Agree with this. I would rather have the $5 mil in cap space the following two years to spend elsewhere than have Garland.

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