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Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 18, 2023
Published: Jul. 18, 2023
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$78,070,834$4,500,000$500,000$5,429,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$11,250,000$11,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,687,500$3,687,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Jul. 18, 2023 at 1:54 a.m.
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NYI doesn't really need more wingers, and BOS doesn't really need more defenders... this is a weird one.

Crazy idea... how about you get a centerman!?
Jul. 18, 2023 at 2:00 a.m.
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Quoting: mvp13
NYI doesn't really need more wingers, and BOS doesn't really need more defenders... this is a weird one.

Crazy idea... how about you get a centerman!?


LoL it’s a sarcastic post to all these Pageau offers that will never happen.

Yes BOS needs a 1/2 center, but Horvat nor Barzal are going to be on the move. Nelson is too old and Pageau is not even a 2C on a real contending team.

So only thing Isles have of interest for BOS is Dobson or futures, which would then be turned into trade cap for a true 1/2C.( not Dobson, I would keep him and trade Carlo if this actually happened😂)
Jul. 18, 2023 at 3:47 a.m.
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dobson is worth like three times this lol
Jul. 18, 2023 at 4:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Snowball
LoL it’s a sarcastic post to all these Pageau offers that will never happen.

Yes BOS needs a 1/2 center, but Horvat nor Barzal are going to be on the move. Nelson is too old and Pageau is not even a 2C on a real contending team.

So only thing Isles have of interest for BOS is Dobson or futures, which would then be turned into trade cap for a true 1/2C.( not Dobson, I would keep him and trade Carlo if this actually happened😂)


If a DeBrusk trade happens between the two, it would have to be for something like Pageau+futures as the Isles also have no cap. Obviously, Boston would need to be able to have the assets and cap to then immediately get that 1 or 2C for them to even do this. Dobson would cost more than DeBrusk had he been available and BOS management wouldn't have it.

Brock Nelson is another option. He's 6M though, so maybe would have to be something like Nelson+Wahlstrom for DeBrusk+Forbort/Grzelcyk and whatever is needed to balance the trade on either side.
Jul. 18, 2023 at 8:05 a.m.
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Dobson is worth far more than DeBrusk due to their controllable years. Bruins really don't need a RHD....about a goalie and centreman
Jul. 18, 2023 at 8:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Snowball
LoL it’s a sarcastic post to all these Pageau offers that will never happen.

Yes BOS needs a 1/2 center, but Horvat nor Barzal are going to be on the move. Nelson is too old and Pageau is not even a 2C on a real contending team.

So only thing Isles have of interest for BOS is Dobson or futures, which would then be turned into trade cap for a true 1/2C.( not Dobson, I would keep him and trade Carlo if this actually happened😂)


Pageau is immediately the best center on your roster. Only reason his point totals are lower is bc he starts over 60% of his shifts in the d zone and the Isles pp was bottom 3 in the league

Dobson is worth Debrusk 3 or 4 times over.

Nelson is worth way more than Debrusk as well
Jul. 18, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Quoting: tniz15
Pageau is immediately the best center on your roster. Only reason his point totals are lower is bc he starts over 60% of his shifts in the d zone and the Isles pp was bottom 3 in the league

Dobson is worth Debrusk 3 or 4 times over.

Nelson is worth way more than Debrusk as well



Lol. No. JGP is a 30-35 pt 3rd line center. He has proved it for 11 years. There is not more to his game.

Yes he has very good intangibles. But he is what he is. A 3rd line center with limited offense and a 5m cap hit.

Debrusk has more value.

For Boston to even consider Isles would have to retain an add a sweetener.
Jul. 18, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
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Quoting: tniz15
Pageau is immediately the best center on your roster. Only reason his point totals are lower is bc he starts over 60% of his shifts in the d zone and the Isles pp was bottom 3 in the league

Dobson is worth Debrusk 3 or 4 times over.

Nelson is worth way more than Debrusk as well



LOL now I hope you’re being sarcastic too. Coyle is better overall then Pageau, only thing Pageau would win out on is FO%. Every other metric Coyle was better last year. Coyle brings all the same intangibles as Pageau as well, and over 70% of his starts were in the d-zone so there goes that argument.

And atleast every bruins fan will admit Coyle is a 3C with ability to cover 2C in case of injury on a true contending team. Pageau ain’t no different, and those players don’t return a top 6 winger, even a mid tier like JD.

Pageau-Walstrom- 1st round is minimum where it starts, then we can add pieces to make it fair from there. Even then BOS needs LW’s more than RW’s honestly IMO. With Pasta and Lysell Likely locking down the 1-2RW spots and with Marchy likely retiring in 2 season, and only Merkulov as a potential LW(unless they swap Harrison from C to LW which is possible) that leave JD a top 6 winger in BOS for the foreseeable future.

Now again all this gets thrown out the window if JD doesn’t want to extend in BOS, then I can see the best offer taking JD and BOS readjusting next offseason.


AGAIN this post was just being sarcastic, cause BOS doesn’t want to move JD about the same as NYI don’t want to move Dobson. I.e. if you want them it’s going to take an overpayment
Jul. 18, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: tniz15
Pageau is immediately the best center on your roster. Only reason his point totals are lower is bc he starts over 60% of his shifts in the d zone and the Isles pp was bottom 3 in the league

Dobson is worth Debrusk 3 or 4 times over.

Nelson is worth way more than Debrusk as well


What else? Pulock is 3x McAvoy and Lee is 2x Marchand?
Jul. 18, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Snowball
Yes BOS needs a 1/2 center, but Horvat nor Barzal are going to be on the move. Nelson is too old and Pageau is not even a 2C on a real contending team.


Nelson is one year older than Pageau. I wouldn’t label him as too old at all and he certainly is closer to value for DeBrusk than Pageau is.

My perspective is DeBrusk should be targeted for extension with the money you were thinking about with Bertuzzi. He emerged into a very good young two player and would seem to be a long term solution
Jul. 18, 2023 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
Nelson is one year older than Pageau. I wouldn’t label him as too old at all and he certainly is closer to value for DeBrusk than Pageau is.

My perspective is DeBrusk should be targeted for extension with the money you were thinking about with Bertuzzi. He emerged into a very good young two player and would seem to be a long term solution


Sorry Nelson isn’t to old currently, he would be better then Pageau, it just longevity wise Nelson doesn’t fit as well. I personally would rather spend more to get a little younger center to align with Pasta’s career

And I agree, I would just rather keep JD for long term LW soloution, would like to see how him and Pasta do playing together for an extended amount of time
 
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