You've given Arizona nothing of value for a steady Schmaltz.

Wrong, they're giving Arizona TOO MUCH value for Schmaltz

Yeahhhhh we’ll keep schmaltz, that isn’t even in the ballpark of an acceptable offer

A second round pick, a cap dump and two never be much if at all NHLers.

You’re undervaluing Podkolzin. He was a top 10 pick who played pretty well as a rookie. Struggled last year yes but he’s still got pretty good value imo

Makes no sense to spend assets on Schmaltz if we aren’t even addressing an area of need…

AZ easily passes on that yikes

No, they accept in a heartbeat fool

Podkolzin is still a legit prospect, you're a fool to think he's anywhere close to being a finished product

Sens accept

I think Rathbone will be a $6/7 on a lot of teams, I think that Podkolzin is a very good prospect that has great tools to become a good player. I just think that he isn't developing properly in the garbage fire that is Vancouver's development system + team.

the 24yo AHL/injury callup LD, the 33yo capdump for a year (still is a decent bottom 4) RD, the 23yo RW with some potential to be middle 6, and another 2nd - that is a great trade for AZ oh yeah sure

You're completely delusional if you think Vancouver's development system is garbage fire

Podkolzin is 22, not 23

even so still doesnt make trade appealing for AZ

Then you're only kidding yourself

right this is such a winner for AZ

It is, seriously

schmaltz is owed 7.5 million next year, and about 8.5 million per season the two years after. myers is owed only $1 million after his bonus is paid.

the cash savings here are considerable for arizona and i have factored that into the acquisition cost.

myers also keeps them well above the cap floor, making in season trades easier for arizona as they wont have to worry about shedding too much cap if they trade guys like zucker/bujstad/crouse/kerfoot/ etc.

I mean, the lack of development has really hurt them in recent years. Especially with their recent picks.

That's the previous regime's fault, not the current regime's. FFS, people need to start being able to separate the wrong-doings of the previous regime that was here and give the new regime the fair shake that they deserve. The new regime was dealt an atrocious hand being brought in mid-season of 21-22, so being able to unload salary without severely compromising the team's long-term future was going to have to wait a little bit. They couldn't buy out OEL in 2022 because he was due a signing bonus, but since he wasn't owed anymore signing bonus money after that, they could buy him out in 2023. I understand many have questioned why new management spent cap space before they could clear it, but it's important to understand HOW they spent it. They didn't commit cap space to luxury or redundant pieces, they spent it on players who actually fill obvious spots on the roster and play well-defined roles for the team. J.T. Miller's slow start to last season was an issue of lacking accountability and standard of excellence, that's a discussion point for another time however, but Rick Tocchet does seem to have a better handle on how to motivate players and make them accountable than Boudreau ever did. As for player development, there is a REASON that management beefed up the staff assigned to fostering the upbringing of up and coming talent in the organization, because it obviously wasn't good enough before, so we have to give them at least 2-3 years worth of runway before we can assess the fruits of their labor, so no more bagging on the organization's player development until then

That’s fair, however very few front office groups get to leave on their own terms. One thing that has hurt the Canucks in that regard is lack of stability from the top down. It’s incredibly hard to get a role on a team when you’ve had three staright seasons with new coaches. That doesn’t lend itself to success especially for the development of young players in the NHL. We’ll see if Tochet can change that narrative, and if he doesn’t there is something fundamentally wrong with the roster.

The issue with the previous regime wasn't only that it was too lean with not enough cooks in the kitchen, but there was a bit of a power grab on Benning's end, whether intentionally or not, that imbalanced dynamic obviously did no favors. In regard to the coaching thing, Frank Seravalli reported that the reason Boudreau wasn't fired right after the disastrous home opener last season is because ownership wouldn't let them, they obviously weren't ready to pay three coaches simultaneously, but all that really serves to demonstrate is WHY ownership shouldn't be hiring a coach before the hockey ops staff is in place, so as far as I'm concerned, the onus there is on ownership there, not management. To play a little bit of Devil's advocate, I actually support the fact that Boudreau wasn't fired in the off-season because I think an underrated aspect of getting things turned around on the ice and in the locker room was having the players recognize that "good-vibes" hockey is not a recipe for long-term success, so if they had Tocchet come in while they were still feeling the "Bruce there it is" high, that may have actually ended up somewhat backfiring on management if they didn't start the season with Bruce behind the bench. Hey, at least ownership had the guts to acknowledge the OEL mistake and opened up their cheque book to send off what had turned into a massive liability, which also acts as a ringing endorsement of the new front office, who in turn honored that vote of confidence with a conservatively disciplined free agency to boot. To your last point, you're absolutely right in that if things go south this season, it's not going to be Tocchet's fault, it will be like you said, because there is something fundamentally, intangibly wrong with the roster. Maybe the core guys just don't have the mental fortitude to consistently play up to tougher competition the way their talent levels would suggest they are able to. Obviously, that will really suck to see, and it will show that management was wrong to bet on the current core, but I still don't think that's likely to happen. I know I'm not losing sleep over it.