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Fair or not fair

Created by: lyc4n
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2023
Published: Jul. 26, 2023
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Trades
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,000,000 retained)
WPG
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Schmid, Akira
  3. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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21$83,500,000$79,827,500$422,500$925,000$3,672,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 5
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
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NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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Not even a little bit fair. Awful for the Devils.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Hard pass.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: lyc4n
Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?


Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: lyc4n
Does it make nj cup favs having a top goalie?


Quoting: NJDevils1317
Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.


Plus we're already cup favorites. We were top 3 last year and on paper we're better
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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Our window is just opening. Last thing we should be doing is selling future core pieces for an unsignable rental.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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I see your point. What if it was a sign and trade something like 7mx5y
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Why do so many look at the Devils like they HAVE to win this year? This is a trade that shortens their window. I'd rather have those assets for the term.


Jack and Nico, mid-twenties!! Nemec may retire before he plays. Before we know it, whole franchise has packed up and moved back to Colorado. Doom!

(In reality…we were the youngest team to get to second round in, I believe, 6-7 years…and for two straight seasons were youngest team in league…it’s weird how so many see NJD as aging).
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: lyc4n
I see your point. What if it was a sign and trade something like 7mx5y


That makes it better…still gotta take Holtz and Schmid out of deal though. Goalies do not normally return as much as people think. Also, he wants $9.5m x 8 extension (so he probably would consider $7m x 5).

I just don’t see a Hellebuyck trade this year.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


Can you explain why WPG would want the older, more expensive, goaltender?
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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Devils should target Swayman.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


No chance they'll get a return that good for Helle, cut that in half and it'd be closer.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
No chance they'll get a return that good for Helle, cut that in half and it'd be closer.


Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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Can you explain why WPG would want the older, more expensive, goaltender?


because they are re-tooling. Schmid has done nothing but surprised in a few games this year.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Plus we're already cup favorites. We were top 3 last year and on paper we're better


Can’t call yourself cup favorites when the Canes have better odds and just smoked the Devils in the playoffs
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: NARC311
Can’t call yourself cup favorites when the Canes have better odds and just smoked the Devils in the playoffs


I meant a cup favorite, not the cup favorite. I think there's no question that the top 2 teams in the league are the Hurricanes and Devils, in that order.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I meant a cup favorite, not the cup favorite. I think there's no question that the top 2 teams in the league are the Hurricanes and Devils, in that order.


Yea, I'd still put Colorado and Vegas up there but Devils are at least top 3-4
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.


There isn't much of a market for Hellebuyck so doubt the return will be great and Vanecek isn't a cap dump so he has value, also I'm not sure NJ wants to trade Vanecek as I think they might want to run a Helle/Vanecek tandem and have Schmid developing in the minors for the season.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Jets say no. Its Holtz, 1st and Vanecek plus another piece if WPG is retaining


? Schmid has more value than vitek
Jul. 26, 2023 at 2:55 p.m.
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Jets take this and run imo probably fair value with the retention, Devil's fans probably say pass as they over value holtz a bit, also doubt they'd give up their goalie of the future
Jul. 26, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
Vanecek is a throw in, NJD dont need him, all he is, is a UFA signing for them, so its a 1st and Holtz(who isnt as good as he should be) and a goalie replacement.


Do you not know who Akira Schmid is
Jul. 26, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Do you not know who Akira Schmid is


Yah, he is a 18 game backup... hardly any experience to run him 40 games
Jul. 26, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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Yah, he is a 18 game backup... hardly any experience to run him 40 games


And a top 5 goalie prospect in the league with starter potential
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