Wouldn’t hate the sens trade, but I think they’d have to have a 3rd team retain ~1m on Granlund to make it work for this year.

Why would the Sabres make such a move? Lyubushkin, who currently holds a third-line grinder position, and Bryson, a reserve for any high-scoring defensive player, are both essential components to the team. Petry, although formerly a scoring defenseman, is aging and his scoring prowess is waning. Ruhwedel, on the other hand, is a remnant of the Sabres' less successful days.

If the intention is to free up some salary cap space, it would be more beneficial to negotiate a deal with Arizona. Given these reasons, the Sabres would likely reject this proposition.

I mean to call Lyubushkin or Bryson essential is hilarious.

But no, buffalo would not trade 2 of our 9 defensemen for 2 more defensemen

I appreciate not another EK trade haha.

Is this team any better than the current roster though? Joseph isn't better than Granlund. Petry is better than Lyubushkin. Don't think Bryson is an upgrade to POJ.

There in lies the rub.
Does Pittsburgh want to move out cap space for a bigger trade?
Would the Sabres accept a second round draft pick to take on the cap?
For only a second, the Sabres would say no.

I'd be hesitant to make that move. Yes Sens gain a 2nd but Granlund is a MAJOR downgrade defensively and Joseph has elite PK metrics

Granlund upgrade on offense don't even seem that guarantied anymore

I doubt the Sens would be interested in that


The difference between Joseph and Granlund is only 2.0 so it would fit. Pinto is not going to get a long term contract now, it will most likely be a cheap short term bridge where he could "prove himself" to get more next year.

If it was clearing a bunch of cap space for another trade I could at least understand the move from the Pens side of things then - but this trade doesn't really even do that.

the sabres get more out of sending bryson to waivers than to just swap him for petry. now they have an entire baseball lineup of midpair defensemen.

Joseph is okay, and reality is I’d just keep him as his value is really low right now and I’d be willing to bet he improves in his 5v5 play this year. The 2nd would be a nice add and I think Granlund can offer a bit more offensively than Joseph. And I was going at a 22 man roster and with Pinto signing around 3x3 which would put the sens around 900k over cap with Granlunds full contract but little amounts like that can be shuffled around lol

Petry to Buffalo is NOT happening
No chance

You sure about that?

Petry's offense could be some what revived in Buffalo I would think

You guys are either overlooking or underestimating Pittsburgh's need to clear cap space to become compliant

I guess it depends how ready the Sens feel the are to begin operating at a draft pick deficit, which shouldn't come to fruition this off-season with the additional 1st added from the Debrincat trade

Sure am
He’s not the type Dman we WERE looking for
The word “were” is capitalized bc we are no longer looking for defensemen after we signed 2 RH guys on July1, who we obviously like

Plus Petry has a terrible contract
No chance we trade for him- NONE

Lots of others could say the same thing
Doesn’t mean we WANT or NEED that though

Last thing we’re interested in is a offensive defenseman reclamation project with a terrible contract

You don't have to like Petry's contract, but I don't think he's ever been a one-dimensional Tyson Barrie type of defenseman

1- He’s average (AT BEST) defensively
2- We don’t need any offense from him- even if he does find it again- bc we already score A TON
3- AND the terrible contract

It makes NO SENSE that we’d be interested in him

No offense dude,
But you don’t seem to have a firm grasp on the Sabres AT ALL
Maybe u should stick to your ‘nucks??

Why did Kevyn Adams trade for Riley Stillman?

LAST YEAR, when we were thin on defense

Now we have 9 NHL defensemen
And we just signed 2 RH defensemen on July1,
which is the same side Petry plays
Not to mention Dahlin plays the right side too
(Plus Lyubushkin & Jokiharju)

Petry is NOT a fit for us, for SO MANY REASONS, that’s you’re obviously oblivious to

Why do u even care about the Sabres??
Worry about your ‘nucks

Doesn't look good on you when you dodge other peoples question in place for going on an insecurely defensive rant

I didn’t dodge the question
We were thin on defense, pointed that out in the VERY 1st sentence of my reply

Nice try though ‘nucker

I don't see the word "thin" in your previous post

I guess because I am a poor speller when @AntiAnalytics misstyped: "LAST YEAR, when we were then on defense" my mind automatically read "thin."
But more to the point, your trade implies Buffalo does not want Petry when you added a second.
In my first responce

As I said earlier, Buffalo would not make this trade as they would not want to add to their cap.
But unless there is another trade that Pittsburgh has in mind, they should not make this trade either.
Petry v Lyubushkin hit/60, blk/60, TOI/gm, PKtoi/gm 8.4-5.8, 4.9-6.1, 22:21-15:01, 2:22-2:03
Petry is better but not $3,500,000 better.
To take on that much cap over a two year period would cost more than a second.
So, "Would the Sabres accept a second round draft pick to take on the cap?
For only a second, the Sabres would say no."
Well that is my penny and a half.

Fair point - I should have been more specific/clear haha. My fault. Basically I was just trying to say only one of those moves needs to happen. If you dump Granlund you don't need to make that Petry trade - and vice versa. Although I would much rather go with the former