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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.
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Nobody's touching Batherson... contract and scandal
Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Nobody's touching Batherson... contract and scandal


What scandall
Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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Leafs going to Leafs
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What scandall


https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/hockey-canada-scandal-sexual-assault-2018-world-juniors-team/hhc54xdapaqx5l29kuimp09g

Batherson was on that team... it's changed from 5 to up to 8 which makes it more likely considering all the guys that have spoken about it but still
Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/hockey-canada-scandal-sexual-assault-2018-world-juniors-team/hhc54xdapaqx5l29kuimp09g

Batherson was on that team


Oh **** gotcha
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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Sens decline, they don't have the cap space to resign Nylander.

Rather have Batherson and Chychrun both on good/great contracts for the price of Nylander.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 6:59 p.m.
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
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Nylander is by far the best player in trade, not even close. Lili is promising young, cost controlled RHD. Chycrun - we’ll have to see but overrated imo. Batherson overpaid and future very doubtful, big no from leafs
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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What about no?

Reading some answers... Dear God, some Leafs fans really are ridiculous

Sens and Habs fans always tell me but I always downplay it... maybe I should not
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:23 p.m.
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Doesn't make the Leafs better this year, Even in future years, Leafs might be better with Liljegren, Jarnkrok and cap then the two Ottawa players at 9.550m. Then those M NTCs might come into play.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
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Nylander is by far the best player in trade, not even close. Lili is promising young, cost controlled RHD. Chycrun - we’ll have to see but overrated imo. Batherson overpaid and future very doubtful, big no from leafs


Batherson isn’t overpaid LMAO
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
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Sens decline, they don't have the cap space to resign Nylander.

Rather have Batherson and Chychrun both on good/great contracts for the price of Nylander.


Well from the Sens point of view, it should never be about resigning Nylander...he's an upcoming UFA. It's about Nylander for one season( plus Liljegren and Jarnkrok). and then 24/25. Jarnkrok and Liljegren at about 6m plus 3.5m in cap space in exchange Batherson and Chychrun. Not saying the Sens (or the Leafs) should do the trade.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:32 p.m.
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Doesn't make the Leafs better this year, Even in future years, Leafs might be better with Liljegren, Jarnkrok and cap then the two Ottawa players at 9.550m. Then those M NTCs might come into play.


I’m convinced you could get star players for free and you’d still say no lmao.
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Batherson isn’t overpaid LMAO


Dude gets $5M to score 12,14, 8 (that’s right 8!) 5v5 goals past 3 years 😂. Jarnkrok scored 17this past year and is better defensively , @$2.1M. PP merchant, way overpaid 😂
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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I’m convinced you could get star players for free and you’d still say no lmao.


Really? Leafs aren't better this year with the trade Starting in 24/25 Leafs have Jarnkrok at 2.1m for two more years, and lets say Liljegren at 4m for three years and 3.5m in cap Is that better than Batherson for three years and Chychrun for one year, I understand why the Sens don't do the deal because Nylander still isn't getting the Sens into the playoffs this season, but what's really in for the Leafs either?
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.
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Really? Leafs aren't better this year with the trade Starting in 24/25 Leafs have Jarnkrok at 2.1m for two more years, and lets say Liljegren at 4m for three years and 3.5m in cap Is that better than Batherson for three years and Chychrun for one year, I understand why the Sens don't do the deal because Nylander still isn't getting the Sens into the playoffs this season, but what's really in for the Leafs either?


Jarnkrok is so mid. Nylander isn’t getting them into the playoffs if they sub out Batherson and Chychrun
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Really? Leafs aren't better this year with the trade Starting in 24/25 Leafs have Jarnkrok at 2.1m for two more years, and lets say Liljegren at 4m for three years and 3.5m in cap Is that better than Batherson for three years and Chychrun for one year, I understand why the Sens don't do the deal because Nylander still isn't getting the Sens into the playoffs this season, but what's really in for the Leafs either?


Exactly right. Leafs keep nylander & Lili & Jarny, win the division & take a run at the cup. SENs can keep chycrun & batherson and miss the playoffs (again)
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:51 p.m.
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Jarnkrok is so mid. Nylander isn’t getting them into the playoffs if they sub out Batherson and Chychrun


Yes Jarnkrok is so mid. 20 goals 39 points at 2.1. One trick pony Batherson, 22 goals 65 points and a massive lead in plus minus 31 on the team, at 4.95m
Yes, I agree that Sens miss the playoff with Nylander, Jarnkrok and Liljgren, but they miss the playoffs with Batherson and Chychrun too.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Well from the Sens point of view, it should never be about resigning Nylander...he's an upcoming UFA. It's about Nylander for one season( plus Liljegren and Jarnkrok). and then 24/25. Jarnkrok and Liljegren at about 6m plus 3.5m in cap space in exchange Batherson and Chychrun. Not saying the Sens (or the Leafs) should do the trade.


Sens, who are just entering their competitive window, probably aren't looking to ditch two of their best value contracts for a 1 year go all in move. I'd rather have Bath and Chych next year than Liljegren and Jarnkrok, unless OP is suggesting that Sens win the cup this year with Nylander, which I doubt.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Sens, who are just entering their competitive window, probably aren't looking to ditch two of their best value contracts for a 1 year go all in move. I'd rather have Bath and Chych next year than Liljegren and Jarnkrok, unless OP is suggesting that Sens win the cup this year with Nylander, which I doubt.


I'm not saying the Sens should do the deal....but don't see how it helps the Leafs either.
But not sure how it it's all in either, Jarnkrok is on a good value contract and Liljegren is now, and likely will be on his next contract too.
I wonder about the Chychrun trade. Was it a first and second for him....for two and one half seasons. Miss the playoffs, last season, likely to miss the playoffs this season. Then in 25/26 it's Chychrun's last seasson.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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Nobody's touching Batherson... contract and scandal


This. 😲
Aug. 8, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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I'm not saying the Sens should do the deal....but don't see how it helps the Leafs either.
But not sure how it it's all in either, Jarnkrok is on a good value contract and Liljegren is now, and likely will be on his next contract too.
I wonder about the Chychrun trade. Was it a first and second for him....for two and one half seasons. Miss the playoffs, last season, likely to miss the playoffs this season. Then in 25/26 it's Chychrun's last seasson.


It's cool, Sens are happy with the Chychrun deal.

I question the value of Lil and Jarnkrok, although I admit I don't watch leafs games. But, they both seem to be included in every ACGM from Leaf fans on this site. If they were such good value or had so much potential, why get rid of them, why is every fan so eager to ditch them for whatever named player is popular at the moment on ACGM?
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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Batherson isn’t overpaid LMAO

Yeah got a good chuckle out of that lol

Quoting: MitchJr
Dude gets $5M to score 12,14, 8 (that’s right 8!) 5v5 goals past 3 years 😂. Jarnkrok scored 17this past year and is better defensively , $2.1M. PP merchant, way overpaid 😂

Batherson is a pure playmaker... It just happens that he also has a wicked shot since he is a high end talent.

Quoting: MitchJr
Exactly right. Leafs keep nylander & Lili & Jarny, win the division & take a run at the cup. SENs can keep chycrun & batherson and miss the playoffs (again)

I have no idea how some Leafs fans continue to be this cocky after 20 years of futility... 1 playoff round win (and it's because Tampa had to sell many players due to the cap and they were totally burned after making the SCF 3 years in a row)

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I'm not saying the Sens should do the deal....but don't see how it helps the Leafs either.

OP is a Leafs fan... ask him
Aug. 8, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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I’m convinced you could get star players for free and you’d still say no lmao.


I think that about 95% of the people on here

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Mcdavid for a 1st round pick

Comments "team A" declines we can't afford his cap hit and and "player B" gets 50 points and only makes $2M so he's worth more
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Aug. 8, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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Yeah got a good chuckle out of that lol


Batherson is a pure playmaker... It just happens that he also has a wicked shot since he is a high end talent.


I have no idea how some Leafs fans continue to be this cocky after 20 years of futility... 1 playoff round win (and it's because Tampa had to sell many players due to the cap and they were totally burned after making the SCF 3 years in a row)


OP is a Leafs fan... ask him



Batherson is a pure playmaker - now that takes the ‘SENs fans are beyond delusional’ cake 😂 today. How can you honestly say that? Do you have any objective proof?
Because the stats certainly don’t support that argument (not even top 50 in assists) and when I watch the Leafs vs SENs, he offers nothing and is only a threat on PP - as a shooter.
Aug. 8, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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It's cool, Sens are happy with the Chychrun deal.

I question the value of Lil and Jarnkrok, although I admit I don't watch leafs games. But, they both seem to be included in every ACGM from Leaf fans on this site. If they were such good value or had so much potential, why get rid of them, why is every fan so eager to ditch them for whatever named player is popular at the moment on ACGM?


It seems to so many that if a Leafs forward isn't up Matthews or Marner standards they are expendable. Same with so many Leaf Dmen.
Liljegren for instance plays 18 minutes a night.... Has good stats, little PP time, what's not to like at 1.4m. Jarnkrok had a fine season with Leafs scoring 20 goals, all at 2.1m
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