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Sillinger - Swayman base trade

Created by: KingLundqvist30
Team: 2023-24 Columbus Blue Jackets
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 11, 2023
Published: Aug. 11, 2023
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This is all based on the Bruins deciding that they would rather keep Ullmark than Swayman (not a chance imo).

The only rationalization I see behind this is if the Bruins think Bussi is ready for full-time backup minutes, and they believe that Sillinger would be capable of becoming a big piece of the core group of guys.

*This is just the base of the trade; More can be added from either side to balance out*
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Aug. 11, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Columbus may need a goalie yes, but not at the expense of the weakest position on their team. I don't like this for Columbus and I don't think their fans would either
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Aug. 11, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Steven_Stamkos
Columbus may need a goalie yes, but not at the expense of the weakest position on their team. I don't like this for Columbus and I don't think their fans would either

My thought process was by the time they are ready to compete (1-2 years), Fantilli *should* be a 1C, and Roslovic will have developed into the perfect 2C. You still have Jenner for at least three more seasons as well. Just food for thought but thanks for the feedback!
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Aug. 11, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.
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I’m listening. I think some other minor pieces on both sides, and it would be contingent on being able to move Elvis, but I’m listening.
Aug. 11, 2023 at 6:32 p.m.
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Quoting: KingLundqvist30
My thought process was by the time they are ready to compete (1-2 years), Fantilli *should* be a 1C, and Roslovic will have developed into the perfect 2C. You still have Jenner for at least three more seasons as well. Just food for thought but thanks for the feedback!


Roslovic is turning 27 in January. He's done developing and he's a poor 2C who probably isn't going to be re-signed unless he has some kind of massive improvement under Babcock.

Sillinger remains a very important part of the future for the Jackets until someone young takes over the second top 6C spot behind Fantilli.
Aug. 11, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Steven_Stamkos
Columbus may need a goalie yes, but not at the expense of the weakest position on their team. I don't like this for Columbus and I don't think their fans would either


Isn't goalie the weakest position on their team?
Aug. 11, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Isn't goalie the weakest position on their team?


Goaltending was bad but it was a product of starting 4 AHLers on defense last year and having a terrible defensive system under Larsen. I would bet on Elvis having a huge bounceback year
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Aug. 11, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Isn't goalie the weakest position on their team?


You could argue it yeah. I don't like their goaltending, but they need to start getting the middle of their ice going. In an ideal world, Jenner, Roslovic and Kuraly are all bottom 6 centers. They have the talent now in Fantilli, Sillinger and Johnson. But they're young so them struggling is very understandable. Swayman is good no doubt, but I think Sillinger is more valuable to Columbus. Boston is hurting for centers, but If Columbus could find a way to get Swayman without trading any of their big 3 prospects down the middle, that would be a perfect scenario
Aug. 11, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Sillinger has little to no value.

Not sure if Boston takes this.

Very likely if Sillinger doesn't make an NHL team soon he is a free waiver pickup. He only has about 15 more games until he isn't waiver exempt.
Aug. 11, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
Sillinger has little to no value.

Not sure if Boston takes this.

Very likely if Sillinger doesn't make an NHL team soon he is a free waiver pickup. He only has about 15 more games until he isn't waiver exempt.


Stop talking out your behind
Aug. 11, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Steven_Stamkos
Stop talking out your behind


What are you saying he's played 143 games. Once you've played 160 games you lose your waiver exempt status. If he doesn't make the NHL full time the options are to sit him in the press box or lose him on waivers. That massively decreased a player's value.
Aug. 11, 2023 at 9:47 p.m.
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What are you saying he's played 143 games. Once you've played 160 games you lose your waiver exempt status. If he doesn't make the NHL full time the options are to sit him in the press box or lose him on waivers. That massively decreased a player's value.


He's played 2 pro years, surprising everyone and making the team year 1.. He's had a terrible snake bitten second season, but quite frankly the team was a complete and utter dumpster fire so he was getting zero help. He still projects to be a really good top 6, 2C with a lot of the intangibles that you just can't teach. The fans and the front office are still very high on him and don't be surprised if he has a bounce back season this year. They aren't going to give up on him, there's too much too like and he's a pure natural center.

Goaltending, both are talented guys with high-end skill sets but Elvis is very inconsistent and it's a mental issue... having a much more structured team and better defense in front of him should help build his confidence back up.. He has the tools. Tarasov, great skill set , but can't stay healthy. No doubt we have some serious consistency issues in net but considering the large Elvis contract and Tarasov having to hit Waivers now... We're not going to be able to address it... We'll have to hope Elvis can figure it out and Tarasov stays healthy.. Goaltending could undue this upcoming season, it's possible.. Elvis could also bounce back.. We'll have to see what happens. Elvis can get it done... will he?? I don't know
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.
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What are you saying he's played 143 games. Once you've played 160 games you lose your waiver exempt status. If he doesn't make the NHL full time the options are to sit him in the press box or lose him on waivers. That massively decreased a player's value.


Why would you put yourself in that position? If he doesn't look good out of camp you send him down. If he does then you play him 10-15 games and if he's struggling you send him down. I'm not seeing what's so bad here.
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
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The problem isn't the trade as I would be listening to this option...its getting rid of Elvis for future considerations and not paying assets to dump him elsewhere. I think Elvis is due for a comeback season but I personally don't care for his style of aggressive goaltending personally.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Why would you put yourself in that position? If he doesn't look good out of camp you send him down. If he does then you play him 10-15 games and if he's struggling you send him down. I'm not seeing what's so bad here.


The problem is just that his trade value isn't equal to his potential right now and some people don't understand that.

If Boston could make this trade try him in the top 6, send him down and bring him up as they needed them it makes loads of sense.

The truth is tho that unless they view him as an AHL player to start the season (in which case they likely don't make this trade). They need to decide by December if he's gonna be in their top 9 or not. The player doesn't come with much flexibility which decrease his trade value. You don't want to end up paying for a player who is a tweener with high potential then either not being able to use him this year or having to risk him on waivers/sit him.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
The problem is just that his trade value isn't equal to his potential right now and some people don't understand that.

If Boston could make this trade try him in the top 6, send him down and bring him up as they needed them it makes loads of sense.

The truth is tho that unless they view him as an AHL player to start the season (in which case they likely don't make this trade). They need to decide by December if he's gonna be in their top 9 or not. The player doesn't come with much flexibility which decrease his trade value. You don't want to end up paying for a player who is a tweener with high potential then either not being able to use him this year or having to risk him on waivers/sit him.


Yes players on ELCs hit certain milestones and get certain benefits. We all know. So yes teams might have to plan around this, like they do every day and every season. You're honestly overvaluing the impact this would have on a trade. They would be trading for him thinking about his long term impact on the team.
 
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