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Top 10 Defensemen

Created by: JKCpp
Team: 2023-24 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 15, 2023
Published: Aug. 15, 2023
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$8,450,000$8,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$9,059,000$9,059,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5

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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
#1
Hank
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I know there is gonna be some karlsson haters but dude literally had 100 pts last year and most of his points came at even strength
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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chabot shouldnt be in HM
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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how is Chabot in hm and Hughes isn't in top ten
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quinn Hughes should be right next to Dahlin
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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Erik Karlsson? lol

Where's Hedman?

Is this a joke?
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Dougie Hamilton had a better WAR, better xWAR, better G+/- RAPM, more points (by 47!), a better 5v5 goal differential, a better relTM G+/- (Slavin was actually negative), a better gamescore, and a better GSVA.

The single net-metric in which Slavin grades out better than Hamilton is expected goals.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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It will be interesting to see what karlsson does this year on a team that will actually expect him to play some defense
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Not even a single consideration for any of the D on the cup winning team.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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Quoting: gary_
how is Chabot in hm and Hughes isn't in top ten

Cause Hughes isn’t that great defensively
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Cause Hughes isn’t that great defensively


He's not terrible defensively, miles better than ek65
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
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Erik Karlsson? lol

Where's Hedman?

Is this a joke?


Hedman ain't top 10 lol
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Quoting: gary_
He's not terrible defensively, miles better than ek65


Not miles better maybe a little bit better and karlsson is a game changer compared to Hughes he can actually score goals and takeover a game all by himself
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: gary_
He's not terrible defensively, miles better than ek65


Quin Hughes has 26 goals in his entire career karlsson had 25 this year and 20 at even strength
Aug. 15, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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I mean Karlsson Is great but a huge risk. Where are the Tampa D?
Aug. 15, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quin Hughes has 26 goals in his entire career karlsson had 25 this year and 20 at even strength


I mean he also broke the record for fastest to 200 assists
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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Quoting: JKCpp
Cause Hughes isn’t that great defensively


Hughes is much better defensively than Karlsson. He also has better defensive metrics than Dahlin
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.
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Quin Hughes has 26 goals in his entire career karlsson had 25 this year and 20 at even strength


You seem to not understand what defenseman do....maybe that's why this list is so pathetic.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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Quoting: JKCpp
Cause Hughes isn’t that great defensively


Yes he is lol. Are you living in 2020? His defense has drastically improved lol
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Quin Hughes has 26 goals in his entire career karlsson had 25 this year and 20 at even strength


You're telling me that the playmaking defenseman is NOT scoring a ton of goals? Your previous comment said Hughes is not good defensively, but you seriously are going to put Karlsson here?
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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Quin Hughes has 26 goals in his entire career karlsson had 25 this year and 20 at even strength


How many points did Erik Karlsson have after 4 NHL seasons?
Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:23 p.m.
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You're telling me that the playmaking defenseman is NOT scoring a ton of goals? Your previous comment said Hughes is not good defensively, but you seriously are going to put Karlsson here?


Karlsson had most of his points at even strength unlike Hughes he also is able to single handily takeover a game hughes has 26 career goals karlsson scored that many last year
Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
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Karlsson had most of his points at even strength unlike Hughes he also is able to single handily takeover a game hughes has 26 career goals karlsson scored that many last year


Hughes had most of his point as even strength. Hughes can't take a game over? Might want to check the stats and the multiple NHL records that Hughes has at 23 years old. If you're using GOALS as a way to measure a DEFENSEMAN, then you're doing things wrong... How about you check their defensive analytics.
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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Hedman ain't top 10 lol


He had one slightly down season and suddenly he's not top 10? He was a Norris finalist for 6 straight years, winning one and winning the Smythe. Dude is one of the best offensively and defensively.
Dude was over a point per game in 2021-22 and has gone to three straight cup finals. A little burnout last year but he's still easy top 10
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Aug. 15, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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He had one slightly down season and suddenly he's not top 10? He was a Norris finalist for 6 straight years, winning one and winning the Smythe. Dude is one of the best offensively and defensively.
Dude was over a point per game in 2021-22 and has gone to three straight cup finals. A little burnout last year but he's still easy top 10


To not consider Hedman a top 10 D in the NHL is just.....idk
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