islanders trade is bad for boston

Dobson and Nelson= Charlie

You've made the team worse and older with less of a future. Congrats

From what I've heard, Sillinger is untouchable, but maybe that will change with Fantili. No need for a goalie back so remove Daniil and the 3rd. It's probably an overpay from Boston's end honestly, but it's close. As for the other trades: McAvoy > Dobson, DeBrusk > Palmeri and the 3rd, and Nelson (while a good add) doesn't make up the difference in losing two young talented guys. Would rather keep the 2nd and Forbort.

Maybe, but it's really Dobson + 2 years of Nelson < 7 more years of McAvoy. Helps with win now, but kills you long term. Not that I don't like Dobson, if we didn't have Lindholm I'd love to work out a way to trade for him

If McAvoy is going it’s Barzal or Horvat+1st and a prospect

Older? Now that’s just dumb. Do you know anything about the players I traded for?

Dobson is worth more than any of that and Nelson is better than Horvat.

The Columbus trade is interesting. I think I'd take it as a Columbus fan, although you're going to want Boqvist higher in your lineup than third pair. He's a finesse defenseman, not a bruiser. Hell of a PP QB, though.

Him and Dobson on a PP would be lethal.

Only way I’m trading sillinger is for a T6 center. I would rather wait to see if Elvis can bounce back behind a non AHL defense than trade for ullmark who was a product of the bruins defense

The main pieces are Nelson(old), Palmieri(old) and Dobson. Dobson is the only piece of interest. Nelson is 31 or 32 and has had a couple great seasons but is historically a 45-55 point player.

Sillinger is young but doesn't look like a definite 2C.

Overall, I would rather have JDB, McAvoy and Ullmark this year and see what happens.

Dobson is 23. Boqvist is 23. Sillinger is 20. Tarasov is 24. Nelson just scored 36 goals so I don’t really care about his age. Ullmark is a luxury that they can no longer afford. You can’t win without centres.

If I care about goals and not age, I'm getting Scheifele over Nelson. Not to mention in that trade I'm giving up my young top 6 25+ goal scorer and my FRANCHISE defensemen.

Dobson and Boqvist interest me, that's it. Sillinger is fine but like I said, he's not a 2C. Boston also has better goaltender prospects than Tarasov.

Dobson is already a legitimate 1 RHD and he’s two years younger than Charlie. How does that only “interest” you? And I can tell you that the Jets and Bruins aren’t great trading partners for Scheifele, who I’m at least had convinced could resign with the Jets.

Sillinger isn't untouchable, I think a lot of the flak people get when trading for him is they look at his past season (which was very bad) and then try to buy low in him, which CBJ aren't having. He looks like he should be a 3C floor, probably 2C ceiling. Great work ethic, defensively responsible, and when he's not absurdly unlucky he can score.

The Daniil inclusion might be less for Boston's sake and more for Columbus' sake...he and Elvis are both waivers-ineligible, so we'd have to either send a goalie out in a trade to bring one back, or risk losing one on waivers (or trade him separately, which would also be fine).

Overall, I'm very intrigued. It fills a need with a goalie that's been underrated. Even behind a bad Buffalo team, Ullmark has had some pretty decent numbers, so I think he's probably top-10 in the league even without Boston's stacked defense and system from last season.

My only reservation is that we'd be selling low on all three pieces. Boqvist has looked like a top-4 option...when healthy (which he wasn't). Sillinger looks like a decent 2C...when he's not in a terrible sophomore slump in a god-awful system (like he was last year). And Tarasov looks like a good 1B, with potential to take the starting role...when the team is even okay in front of him (which they weren't).

McAvoy is 26 years old and a top5 Dman in the league Dobson looks very promising but his value isn’t close to McAvoy at all and Nelson is older and worse defensively than Horvat he’s had a handful of 30 goal seasons but he’s not better than Horvat at least not in the Bruins top 6

That's how I see it too, but it doesn't really help the Islanders. The difference between Dobson and McAvoy is not Brock Nelson.



No one is comparing Nelson to Horvat. Two completely different players who play different styles. It's apples and oranges.

Nelson would be an incredible fit for Boston, but the Bruins would have to pay NYI for him. There's not really a hockey trade to be made here. You don't have a young stud winger available (other than DeBrusk, who I really like, but he's not a stud).

Nelson has overperformed expectations the last two seasons and his defensive issues are covered up by the Islanders system
He turns 32 this november and he doesn’t have the two-way ability to succeed in the Bruins system he isn’t what the team needs

Nelson doesn't have defensive issues, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.

He's better than every center currently on the Bruins roster.

Nelson’s defensive analytics are sub-par and he might currently have more offensive production than Zacha and Coyle but he’s too old and the slim marginal improvement he would bring is not worth 6mill for 2 more seasons it’s the same situation as Mark Scheifele neither player fills the role we need and neither player fits the timeline it makes more sense to save cap and grind it out than to plaster over the hole at 1C with mediocre 30+ year olds that don’t move the needle