Really hoping we have a SJS/CAR trade pause for 5 years after that garbage Burns trade.

If this year is as bad as last year they may consider it. It was the same thing with EK65. He said he loved it in SJ and wanted to try and make it work but reality sets in when you see that the team isn't close to competing.

Hertl may want to waive if they don't take a step forward this season. I also want to see Hertl win, and he'd make a perfect fit in Carolina. I'd be thrilled with a 1st + Scott Morrow or something. it would fit both teams needs perfectly

The deal that dumped over 5 mil off the books and got a 3rd, a decent goaltending prospect, and depth forward that was flipped for Duclair? With Burns having a remarkably average couple of seasons prior to the trade and being 37 years old?

Any criticism is based purely on hindsight bias. It was decent/necessary trade at the time and could be even better in hindsight depending on the Duclair return

I don't disagree it led to arguably Grier's best move yet regarding Duclair. Florida was desperate to shed cap though. That's Grier getting lucky.

My scope is based on the trade itself. We just paid Burns almost 3m to score 60+ points on another team. All we got back was a goalie who won't being a starter, a 3rd round selection who again probably won't be a starter, and a 4th liner who did nothing.

Your scope is NOT based on the trade itself if you're taking into account the season he had after the trade and disregard how he was playing before the trade. Also Lorentz was fantastic, what are you tlaking about. And Makiniemi looked pretty good at the NHL level and was good in the AHL considering how bad the Cuda d was last year.

The problem with your argument is Burns was playing well with the Sharks, particularly in the season before we traded him. He had no injury history and played huge minutes every night.

Upgrading from Ferraro (who had a disaster season without Burns) to Slavin also made a big difference.

Lorentz was not fantastic. His underlying numbers were fairly pedestrian, so no need to exaggerate.

He played decent the year before but the two years before that he was just not good. And again he was 37, you can't expect guys to continue to get better after 35.

Also Ferraro had zero d-partner stability this season, he had a new partner every night. A little hard to compare him to the best defensive d-man in the league.

As for Lorentz, he was fantastic in his role. He had good numbers for a fourth liner who could jump in the top 6 and hold his own when trades/injuries happened

Fair point me pointing out the following season. My bad there.
C'mon, you really think Makiniemi is a starter?

No, but I think he has potential to be a decent starter/tandem goaltender

This year is fully expected to be as bad if not worse than last year, 24/25 is where sharks start to improve, 1st plus Morrow would be ok if we get Celebrini 1st OA in 24 draft. Otherwise it hurts the sharks future quite a bit. Sharks need a good 1-4 down the middle and Hertl Smith Bordeleau Bystedt is a solid 1-4 remove Hertl without anything to replace him and it hurts us.

No, that contract is gonna be brutal later since he is signed until he is 38, canes won't do that.

Pesce just isn't that good. His defensive Rels are no better than Ceci's. One of the biggest factors is contract and you clearly haven't considered that at all. Or Nugent-Hopkins NMC.

I guess you didn't get I was joking. I know Kadri isn't going anywhere, and yes that contract will be brutal in 4 years. LTIRetirement might be the solution.