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Whats the price on Konecny

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
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High.TK has 2 years left on his contract. In his prime coming off a very productive season even though he missed games.

Start with a good young player off your roster, a good prospect and a #1 pick.

Briere only trades TK if it's an overpayment in my opinion. Contrary to CFACGM he doesn't HAVE to trade him.
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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High. He has 2 years left on his contract. In his prime coming off a very productive season even though he missed games.

Start with a good young player off your roster, a good prospect and a #1 pick.


Yea and let’s be honest and add Pinto and remove the retention and even then I would have to wonder if it’s a smart trade for Philly!
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
High.TK has 2 years left on his contract. In his prime coming off a very productive season even though he missed games.

Start with a good young player off your roster, a good prospect and a #1 pick.

Briere only trades TK if it's an overpayment in my opinion. Contrary to CFACGM he doesn't HAVE to trade him.


I think ppl learned a lesson never to acquire a guy with 2 years left. Either 1 year or RFA and can see if the player is interested in signing an extension
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Yea and let’s be honest and add Pinto and remove the retention and even then I would have to wonder if it’s a smart trade for Philly!


Yeah there will be no retention. 5.5 mil AAV is a bargain for TK. The OP's offer would be easily rejected by Briere.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Yea and let’s be honest and add Pinto and remove the retention and even then I would have to wonder if it’s a smart trade for Philly!


Wouldn’t move Pinto 1 for 1 for Konecny personally
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Wouldn’t move Pinto 1 for 1 for Konecny personally


Then you’re not interested in TK cause he won’t come cheap!
Not hating I like Pinto too but you gotta give to get and Philly needs guys like Pinto for their rebuild.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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Then you’re not interested in TK cause he won’t come cheap!
Not hating I like Pinto too but you gotta give to get and Philly needs guys like Pinto for their rebuild.


Give to get when the player isn't a rental.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:10 p.m.
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Then you’re not interested in TK cause he won’t come cheap!
Not hating I like Pinto too but you gotta give to get and Philly needs guys like Pinto for their rebuild.


Will always take the 2 way centre over the winger. Pinto’s comparable for me is Brock Nelson
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Yea and let’s be honest and add Pinto and remove the retention and even then I would have to wonder if it’s a smart trade for Philly!


I can understand if Konecny returns a bit more than this in a trade, but adding Pinto is ridiculous.

In this trade, Philly is getting a 1st round pick likely between 13-20th overall, a legit #4D in Branny (worth a 2nd), a 20 goal UFA in Kubalik who they can easily get a 2nd for at the deadline, a young nhl ready D in Lassi, and an overpaid bottom 6er in Joseph who has slight negative value.

Saying Ottawa adds a 2nd here is fair, or someone like Boucher (who has ties to Philly). But add Pinto and you still don't think Philly does it? That's bananas.

You could offer me Konecny for 2 more years for Pinto (4 more years of team control) straight up and I probably wouldn't do it.
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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I can understand if Konecny returns a bit more than this in a trade, but adding Pinto is ridiculous.

In this trade, Philly is getting a 1st round pick likely between 13-20th overall, a legit #4D in Branny (worth a 2nd), a 20 goal UFA in Kubalik who they can easily get a 2nd for at the deadline, a young nhl ready D in Lassi, and an overpaid bottom 6er in Joseph who has slight negative value.

Saying Ottawa adds a 2nd here is fair, or someone like Boucher (who has ties to Philly). But add Pinto and you still don't think Philly does it? That's bananas.

You could offer me Konecny for 2 more years for Pinto (4 more years of team control) straight up and I probably wouldn't do it.


2 years of team control is terrible because you don’t know if the player will pull a Debrincat. If you wait till next summer you can extend him
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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2 years of team control is terrible because you don’t know if the player will pull a Debrincat. If you wait till next summer you can extend him


Exactly. Maybe I'd do the DET 1st and then a 2026 OTT 2md that turns into a 1st if Konecny re-signs in Ottawa. Then Philly gets 2 1sts for Konecny plus other pieces. And hopefully the 2026 1st is in the mid to late 20s for Ottawa.
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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I can understand if Konecny returns a bit more than this in a trade, but adding Pinto is ridiculous.

In this trade, Philly is getting a 1st round pick likely between 13-20th overall, a legit #4D in Branny (worth a 2nd), a 20 goal UFA in Kubalik who they can easily get a 2nd for at the deadline, a young nhl ready D in Lassi, and an overpaid bottom 6er in Joseph who has slight negative value.

Saying Ottawa adds a 2nd here is fair, or someone like Boucher (who has ties to Philly). But add Pinto and you still don't think Philly does it? That's bananas.

You could offer me Konecny for 2 more years for Pinto (4 more years of team control) straight up and I probably wouldn't do it.


Kubalik is a rental. Value isn't there.
Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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Exactly. Maybe I'd do the DET 1st and then a 2026 OTT 2md that turns into a 1st if Konecny re-signs in Ottawa. Then Philly gets 2 1sts for Konecny plus other pieces. And hopefully the 2026 1st is in the mid to late 20s for Ottawa.


But Philly doesn't have to trade TK. You're acting as if they do. Briere doesn't have to accept your offer. TK is young enough to be a part of their rebuild.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
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2 firsts minimum.

Whatever the price is, you wouldn't want to pay it.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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Unless PHI gets forced into a corner where they have to trade him, I don't see TK being worth the price to OTT to acquire in a trade. TK is a great top-6 winger, but, honestly, is not worth the price of Pinto. If that is the deal breaker for PHI, then it sounds like this is a trade that simply won't happen. I think this trade is good value-wise for TK as a player but, as folks are saying, PHI doesn't have to trade TK; making his value to the organization inflate the expected trade return. They'll just keep him until an offer comes along that blows their socks off, so unless OTT offers Pinto it isn't going to happen.

Edit: Sorry for saying 'simply' too many times. Changed that.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: TkachukNorris79
Exactly. Maybe I'd do the DET 1st and then a 2026 OTT 2md that turns into a 1st if Konecny re-signs in Ottawa. Then Philly gets 2 1sts for Konecny plus other pieces. And hopefully the 2026 1st is in the mid to late 20s for Ottawa.


That’s quite literally illegal according to the CBA 😂
Aug. 24, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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But Philly doesn't have to trade TK. You're acting as if they do. Briere doesn't have to accept your offer. TK is young enough to be a part of their rebuild.


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Then you’re not interested in TK cause he won’t come cheap!
Not hating I like Pinto too but you gotta give to get and Philly needs guys like Pinto for their rebuild.


I appreciate you guys covering everything I usually have to explain to Sens fans lol. Everyone wants TK for second rate players but everyone wants TK, go figure lol. Nobody wants to pay for him. Nobody ever wants to pay for Flyers players cause even tho everyone wants them, apparently they all aren’t good enough for real returns.
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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I appreciate you guys covering everything I usually have to explain to Sens fans lol. Everyone wants TK for second rate players but everyone wants TK, go figure lol. Nobody wants to pay for him. Nobody ever wants to pay for Flyers players cause even tho everyone wants them, apparently they all aren’t good enough for real returns.


Plus Briere is a rookie GM. The last thing he needs is to be taken to the woodshed by a rival GM.
Aug. 24, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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I appreciate you guys covering everything I usually have to explain to Sens fans lol. Everyone wants TK for second rate players but everyone wants TK, go figure lol. Nobody wants to pay for him. Nobody ever wants to pay for Flyers players cause even tho everyone wants them, apparently they all aren’t good enough for real returns.


Sharks fans feel you! The returns are almost always underwhelming on here it that’s just typical fan bias
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Aug. 24, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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Sharks fans feel you! The returns are almost always underwhelming on here it that’s just typical fan bias


We'd better be prepared for the lowball offers for Sharks players right up until the trade deadline. It'll be Teal ugly. 🤮
Aug. 24, 2023 at 4:11 p.m.
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We'd better be prepared for the lowball offers for Sharks players right up until the trade deadline. It'll be Teal ugly. 🤮

I’ve seen them!
5th and 6th plus a below average player for Duclair
4th for Barabanov 50% retained
🤮
Aug. 24, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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I’ve seen them!
5th and 6th plus a below average player for Duclair
4th for Barabanov 50% retained
🤮


It's only the beginning my fellow Sharks fan. ☹️
Aug. 24, 2023 at 7:33 p.m.
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Wouldn’t move Pinto 1 for 1 for Konecny personally

Sens wouldn’t trade Pinto or Greig for Chychrun (and DeBrincat I believe), nothing has changed

Quoting: AlTintin1122
2 years of team control is terrible because you don’t know if the player will pull a Debrincat. If you wait till next summer you can extend him

Sens don’t even need Konecny right now. They have 13 players who need PP time and don’t even have cap space.

Lowering the team support quality (players like Brannstrom, Kubalik/Joseph) and good futures (1st, 2nd/Thomson) to make that move would be stupid. Wait next summer, let Tarasenko walk (and Kubalik if he’s still there) and invest on the best forward you could get (which should be 6-7 if they kept Joseph and Brannstrom)

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I appreciate you guys covering everything I usually have to explain to Sens fans lol. Everyone wants TK for second rate players but everyone wants TK, go figure lol. Nobody wants to pay for him. Nobody ever wants to pay for Flyers players cause even tho everyone wants them, apparently they all aren’t good enough for real returns.

You can’t explain anything to anybody because you know Jack **** about hockey. You’re not fooling anybody
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Aug. 25, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Flyer fans are right... Briere doesn't have to trade Konecny. He can wait as long as he wants.
He can wait until the deadline, hope that Konecny is healthy and that his goal scoring hasn't returned to his 20-21 or 21-22 numbers.
Or that Konecny isn't just one of the many players available at the deadline causing teams to go to their next option if the price is too high.
Or maybe Briere just waits until the summer of '24... when a trade is more complicated by who Konecny would and wouldn't be willing to extend with thereby limiting Briere's options to just 1 or 2 teams.
But I agree... Briere doesn't have to trade Konecny.
 
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