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Reworking the defence

Created by: Leafsfan98
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 25, 2023
Published: Aug. 25, 2023
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The tree has stated he wanted to rework the defence, this does that... Then the classic Nylander trade to finalize it and get the Leafs under the cap

I'm higher on Manson than most and feel as though the Leafs should at least consider it... Again, an Avs fan created the trade, and no, the Avs aren't paying for rentention, a 3rd party team is
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh ($2,250,000 retained)
COL
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
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Note: I saw this on another Avs thread and I know the rule is don't trade with Sakic/Yzerman... But I like Manson...

Also note: It's not the Avs paying for retention... It's a third party team for a 3rd
2.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Nylander, William
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Because I'm boring
3.
TOR
    Manson Retention
    ANA
    1. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
    2. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
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    I figured; if it takes 2 3rds, so be it
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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    it'll cost more than 2 3rds for 3 years retention for a 3rd party team man
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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    It's not specifically the Ducks for retention: forgot to mention that
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    it'll cost more than 2 3rds for 3 years retention for a 3rd party team man


    It shouldn't cost more than 2 3rds for 6 mill in retention
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
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    I don’t see Carolina accepting. Necas as an RFA is worth more imo than a potential UFA in Nylander.
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.
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    Kinda crazy to think that Canes would trade 70 point 3m Necas and those picks for one year of 7m Nylander.
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Kinda crazy to think that Canes would trade 70 point 3m Necas and those picks for one year of 7m Nylander.


    Carolina said they wanted to go get a big fish in the offseason... There is right now no bigger fish TBH
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: HOCKEYBOY448
    I don’t see Carolina accepting. Necas as an RFA is worth more imo than a potential UFA in Nylander.


    After the QO, can't he walk to free agency?
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    Carolina said they wanted to go get a big fish in the offseason... There is right now no bigger fish TBH


    It's a bad trade for the Canes . They should gone the UFAS route if they wanted a big fish.
    Doesn't really matter what a GM says....he probably does it to get the fan base excited.
    Trevling must be an idiot to say he wants to rework the defence. Gee makes the 7 guys under contract feel good. Just do it, but don't just talk about it.
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    It's a bad trade for the Canes . They should gone the UFAS route if they wanted a big fish.
    Doesn't really matter what a GM says....he probably does it to get the fan base excited.
    Trevling must be an idiot to say he wants to rework the defence. Gee makes the 7 guys under contract feel good. Just do it, but don't just talk about it.


    I was just following what the Canes GM said...
    IDK what Treliving's doing, just going off what he says
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    It shouldn't cost more than 2 3rds for 6 mill in retention


    another story when its a 3rd party team though
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    another story when its a 3rd party team though


    Why would it cost more than 2 3rds?
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    After the QO, can't he walk to free agency?


    No they’d retain his rights. If someone were to offer sheet him then the Canes would receive draft pick compensation.
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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    Manson has a NTC and a M-NTC starting next season. Toronto is 100% on it.
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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    Quoting: swissmontana
    Manson has a NTC and a M-NTC starting next season. Toronto is 100% on it.


    Please provide proof Toronto is on it
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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    Manson has all Canadian teams on his NTC.
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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    Quoting: PeterForsberg21
    Manson has all Canadian teams on his NTC.


    How do you know
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.
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    ..
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    How do you know


    https://twitter.com/josephdzita/status/1489649706397577221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1489649706397577221%7Ctwgr%5E8066a5ed3cefff86bed6173a328acc9e5f3e095e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fskoqi0%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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    Not enough compensation for the retention
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: PeterForsberg21
    https://twitter.com/josephdzita/status/1489649706397577221?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1489649706397577221%7Ctwgr%5E8066a5ed3cefff86bed6173a328acc9e5f3e095e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fskoqi0%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse


    Thank you for letting me know
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    Aug. 25, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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    Quoting: Leafsfan98
    After the QO, can't he walk to free agency?


    His QO is 3 million... after the offer him that, he's an RFA. He'd have to sign an offer sheet to leave. Nylander would be a UFA, free to sign anywhere. Necas is 3 years younger. Necas is straight up the more valuable player. Why the f**k would the Canes add this much. Straight up, would need to be rental Nylander + for Necas
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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    canes pass. Nylander isnt worth trading Necas for.
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 10:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    His QO is 3 million... after the offer him that, he's an RFA. He'd have to sign an offer sheet to leave. Nylander would be a UFA, free to sign anywhere. Necas is 3 years younger. Necas is straight up the more valuable player. Why the f**k would the Canes add this much. Straight up, would need to be rental Nylander + for Necas


    Disagree on the Nylander+ part but ok
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.
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    Nylander > Necas by a healthy margin - that is the main concern for leafs who are in win now mode. nylander has consistently out produced necas and last year scored 12 more goals ( in total & 5v5) - big difference between 28 (56th place) & 40 (14th place). And add in that nylander is elite at creating scoring chances + zone entry with control - trade would be a massive downgrade for Leafs. Nylander would becone the Canes most dangerous offensive player & Necas would not even make our top 5. No chance leafs consider this trade; to add would be Canes Insane (typical drivel from canes fans)
    Aug. 25, 2023 at 11:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    His QO is 3 million... after the offer him that, he's an RFA. He'd have to sign an offer sheet to leave. Nylander would be a UFA, free to sign anywhere. Necas is 3 years younger. Necas is straight up the more valuable player. Why the f**k would the Canes add this much. Straight up, would need to be rental Nylander + for Necas


    Would just need to be a 1 for 1 (or 2 for 2) but the only way that happens is if Carolina has a guarantee that Nylander is signing at an AAV of their liking (guessing 9M-9.25Mx7/8). Considering that Nylander currently only wants to play in Toronto, I don't think that's a likely scenario. Better chance that a Pesce+ for Nylander+ maybe Pesce + Teuvo (w/ retention) + propsect for Nylander + Liljegren in a net 0 trade or Pesce + Teuvo (w/ retention) for Nylander + Timmins + 3rd-5th or a prospect.
     
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