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MTL restarts the rebuild

Created by: Caufield
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2023
Published: Sep. 7, 2023
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This is for fun, relax
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
2.
MTL
  1. Bystedt, Filip
  2. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (SJS)
3.
MTL
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
4.
MTL
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
5.
MTL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (VAN)
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (VAN)
6.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
saw interest from VGK fans
7.
MTL
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
8.
MTL
  1. 2024 6th round pick (CBJ)
9.
MTL
CBJ
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2024 4th round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
anywhere
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2024
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2025
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23$83,500,000$64,492,916$1,170,000$4,752,500$19,007,084
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
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RFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
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UFA - 8
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$897,500$897,500
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$855,000$855,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1

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Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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That's a lot for Matheson.
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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Suzuki is worth more than that... and would still fit a rebuild window - just absurd.
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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Hard no from Edmonton.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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Canucks reject, not giving up a second for a backup goalie
Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
That's a lot for Matheson.


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Hard no from Edmonton.


It's the Campbell dump, that's a 1st+
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: canucksfan43
Canucks reject, not giving up a second for a backup goalie


fair ig
Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:53 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Suzuki is worth more than that... and would still fit a rebuild window - just absurd.


everyone hates Suzuki here, I get he would fit the window, but for his sake, let him compete before 28-29 (In this scenario obviously). SJ would be closer to contention here than MTL would
Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:56 p.m.
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It's the Campbell dump, that's a 1st+

Edmonton declines hard. They don't need to dump Campbell (who has had 1 bad year out if the past 5 -sheesh) and they have no use for Matheson. There's simply no value here for Edmonton.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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If you do all that, may as well trade Caufield too coz he gonna be piiiiiiiiiissed. Hoo lordy.
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Edmonton declines hard. They don't need to dump Campbell (who has had 1 bad year out if the past 5 -sheesh) and they have no use for Matheson. There's simply no value here for Edmonton.


Another second-round exit🤷‍♂️. Plus I couldn't care less, this ain't happening its for fun lol
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
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Leafs don’t have the cap space for that but value isn’t bad
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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If the Leafs were interested at all -- the value may be close depending on how highly they're valuing Niemela.... but would have to make 3 other trades to fit the cap space.
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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Edmonton declines hard. They don't need to dump Campbell (who has had 1 bad year out if the past 5 -sheesh) and they have no use for Matheson. There's simply no value here for Edmonton.


Campbell GSAx by season
All situations
22/23: -18.87
21/22: -7.96
20/21: 5
19/20: -6.72

5v5
22/23: -15.49
21/22: -10.79
20/21: 4.42
19/20: -1.85

That’s 1 good year out of the last 4
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:12 p.m.
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Don’t see the Canucks paying a 2nd+ for a backup. If they can find the cap space I’d do a late round pick for Desmith though
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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Another second-round exit🤷‍♂️. Plus I couldn't care less, this ain't happening its for fun lol

LOL, as if Matheson on the 3rd pairing would make a difference.

Edmonton could get a far better return for their assets than an LHD they don't need.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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Quoting: CD282
LOL, as if Matheson on the 3rd pairing would make a difference.

Edmonton could get a far better return for their assets than an LHD they don't need.


Just play Ekholm on the right, bang, one of the best top 4 in the league. Matheson was better than Nurse last year anyways
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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Just play Ekholm on the right, bang, one of the best top 4 in the league. Matheson was better than Nurse last year anyways

Broberg is being groomed for top-4 right side. He was paired with Ekholm yesterday.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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Campbell GSAx by season
All situations
22/23: -18.87
21/22: -7.96
20/21: 5
19/20: -6.72

5v5
22/23: -15.49
21/22: -10.79
20/21: 4.42
19/20: -1.85

That’s 1 good year out of the last 4


Whatever stats you want to look at doesn't change the fact that Edmonton doesn't need to trade him.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Broberg is being groomed for top-4 right side. He was paired with Ekholm yesterday.


sure, he still has a chance to be good, but if you want the cup, Broberg better not be in your top 4 next year
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Campbell GSAx by season
All situations
22/23: -18.87
21/22: -7.96
20/21: 5
19/20: -6.72

5v5
22/23: -15.49
21/22: -10.79
20/21: 4.42
19/20: -1.85

That’s 1 good year out of the last 4


what's his save percentage and GAA last 5 season season by season. I think those stats are more important then GSA
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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Whatever stats you want to look at doesn't change the fact that Edmonton doesn't need to trade him.


Was more just pointing out he doesn’t only have 1 bad season in the last 5. Edmonton should give him another year to try and bounce back though
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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what's his save percentage and GAA last 5 season season by season. I think those stats are more important then GSA


Save percentage and GAA are pretty team dependent stats, especially compared to GSAx. But in that timeframe his stats are
22/23: .888 SV%, 3.41 GAA
21/22: .914 SV%, 2.64 GAA
20/21: .921 SV%, 2.15 GAA
19/20: .904 SV%, 2.80 GAA
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
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Was more just pointing out he doesn’t only have 1 bad season in the last 5. Edmonton should give him another year to try and bounce back though

All depends on which stats you want to use. His overall sv% was above league average in 4 of the past 5 seasons. I don't think GSAx is as definitive as you seem to.
Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
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sure, he still has a chance to be good, but if you want the cup, Broberg better not be in your top 4 next year

We'll see. But he posted a 59% xGF% as a 21 year old, so that's promising. He's tracking as a top-4 defender, there's no harm in trying him out there now. If he's not ready we already know Ceci is capable of playing top-4, so there's cover.
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Sep. 7, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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All depends on which stats you want to use. His overall sv% was above league average in 4 of the past 5 seasons. I don't think GSAx is as definitive as you seem to.


In my opinion SV% and GAA can be heavily team dependent stats, especially compared to GSAx. But Campbell’s SV% has been lower than league average 2 of the last 4 seasons
22/23: .888 (league average .904)
21/22: .914 (league average .907)
20/21: .921 (league average .908)
19/20: .904 (league average .910)
 
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