Enough money left for Pierre to Uber to/from Orleans once

Yep. It's in his contract.

You wouldn't even accrue enough by the trade deadline to recall a league minimum player if you start with $120 at the beginning of the season. What if there's an injured player the first game of the season?

You're playing short handed a lot what happens when a guy gets a stomach flu and can't play and you can't call anyone up. A stomach flu here a minor tweaked hammy from again playing short as a lightning fan I know that feeling. I remember against Los Angeles. TB started a game with 12-4 yes that's not a typo. Hedman- Foote, McDonagh -Sergachev

I remember that game. That was something to behold.

Cal Footes best career NHL game.

If Pinto is this next great center like all Sens make him out to be why would he sign a deal that cheap?

He has no choice really he can't be offer sheeted and wasn't arbitration eligible. Is he going to not sign and make nothing?

He can sign for whatever he wants and shouldn’t make less just because the GM can’t manager the cap well. He could easily hold out and force the GM to make a cap dump move to get more cap for him. Nobody is taking less money because the GM can’t do their job

So, let me see if I'm understanding what you think he should or would do is. He should/would sit out not take almost 2 million dollars a year for 2 years and at 23 not continue developing his craft or should/would he take a Ross Colton deal he took 2 years ago and can really make a nice pay out in 2 years when you become arbitration eligible?

$2M as a third line center is underpaid by at minimum $500K realistically $1M+ and it’s not his fault that the GM can’t manage his own cap. Sens fans think he is the next great center and if that’s the case a $2M AAV is an insult when you have guys like Joseph who are barely 4th liners making $3M

Again you're not understanding he's not in a position of strength in the negotiation his realistic 3 options are :
A) Accept what Dorian is able to give him.
B) Sit out find a real job or just workout.
C) Sign in Europe where he'll make less.
There really isn't option D

1 Joseph sent to Bel. Agreed.
2 Greig to Bel also - Call up cheaper player on league min contract like Imama to save as much cap as possible. (Greig can be first call up for injury though/ when someone is traded)
3 Sign Pinto to a cheap 1 year deal. Give him more next year when cap goes up. He has so little leverage here. Dorion wants to give him a higher contract but literally can't. He's holding out as long as possible but will sign eventually to whatever Dorion can really offer but as short term as possible. With the cap going up next year, he'll easily make up the cash on next years contract anyway. He's holding out only in the off chance a trade happens that opens up cap space for Dorion to offer more money to him but come Oct 11, he's signing whatever he can. Missing time over 750K-1M right now would be a massive L for his camp.
4 Accrue cap space as much as possible while attempting to move Joseph without the pressure of the start of the season cap ceiling.
5 Run 11-7 until injuries inevitably happen to a higher price guy and then you can restructure the lineup a little at that point. Hopefully by that time Joseph is moved though.

Its super tight but its been done before. They'll need a little luck to get it all done but its totally doable. There is always a chance someone gets hurt in camp/preseason and then can be moved to LTIR to start the year. I know we all want the quick resolution to the issue but in reality there are a lot of options here. I guarantee Pinto will be on the opening night roster or very shortly after AND the team will be compliant to start the year.

Option D is force a trade because if the GM is asking you to take a contract that is pennies on the dollar he doesn’t respect you and can’t do his job properly

Dorian is under no obligation to trade him. He has zero leverage. So, unless Someone offers Dorian a package he finds is in the Senators best interest there isn't a damn thing Pinto can do. Those are the facts. He as I said earlier has 3 options.

Another fact is it’s not a good idea to piss off one of ur best prospects by making him an insulting offer

Not saying it's perfect,but it is reality. I'm sure the 1.125 probably hurt TB with Colton but at the same age with better production than Pinto he signed because he knew he really had no leverage.

Tampa was also a cup team, he knew he had a cup shot with them. OTT will be lucky to make the playoffs lol

So how does he force a trade? How does he force a higher AAV? please enlighten me on this magical negotiation tactic you know? He's a 10.2c RFA which means he's got zero I repeat zero leverage in negotiations other than sitting out.

This has been blown out of context lol u think I mean that he should sit down at the table and laugh in the GMs face. I’m saying the GM should be wise and avoid the situation altogether by moving cap to make room for them to come to a fair agreement. You never mess with a man’s money and I guarantee you Pinto won’t forget it if the GM slights him

Sorry I disagree paying a guy with less than 100 NHL games 4 years from his draft, who is less than .5 ppg player, who has no real leverage almost 2 per million for 2 years is this massive insult, but that's my opinion. He's been a 36/82 guy in his career so far. Will he get better yeah would it be nice to lock him up long term yeah but sometimes you just got to do what you got to do. Paying someone to take Joseph for example hurts you more in the long run possibly.

Pinto isn't worth 1.945 AAV for next season so YES it should be feasible

I look at all these contracts (bridges for forwards coming out of their ELCs) to evaluate :

Noah Cates
Ty Dellandrea
Rafaël Harvey-Pinard
Morgan Frost
Cody Glass
Nils Höglander
Joseph Veleno
Ryan McLeod
Jack McBain
Oliver Wahlstrom

He could sign a long term deal as soon as January if he signs a cheap 1 year deal for this season. He'd gain more in the end than signing the 2.5 x 2 years


Oh and also, don't mind that poster, he has no idea what he is talking about. Not only he doesn't understand what a young player out of his ELC with only 1 NHL season should make, vs a player on his UFA years but "Joseph who are barely 4th liners making $3M" shows how much he knows

Then he will ask for a 1st + 2nd for Scott freaking Laughton. Look at production rates and advanced stats, I actually would not trade Joseph for Laughton lol

Nice to see reasonable people here. You'll never be able to reason with the GMbriere guy.

My opinion, Pinto gets around 1.3-1.5 on a one-year deal.