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Ranking Leafs prospects based off two games

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• Mitchell Marner: $9,753,000 ($10,903,000)
• Ilya Samsonov: $2,400,000 ($3,550,000)
• Auston Matthews: $10,490,250 ($11,640,250)
• William Nylander: $5,812,366 ($6,962,366)
• Tyler Bertuzzi: $4,350,000 ($5,500,000)
• Calle Järnkrok: $950,000 ($2,100,000)
• Ryan Reaves: $200,000 ($1,350,000)
• John Tavares: $9,850,000 ($11,000,000)
• Matt Murray: $3,537,500 ($4,687,500)
• TJ Brodie: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)
• Max Domi: $1,850,000 ($3,000,000)
• Jake McCabe: $850,000 ($2,000,000)
• David Kämpf: $1,250,000 ($2,400,000)
• Morgan Rielly: $6,350,000 ($7,500,000)
• John Klingberg: $3,000,000 ($4,150,000)
• Jake Muzzin: $4,475,000 ($5,625,000)
• Timothy Liljegren: $250,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$83,500,000	$83,561,312	$0	$0	-$61,312

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Future, Leafs $775,000$775,000	NHL, potential $775,000$775,000	Can we get our draft pick, back $775,000$775,000
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Hildeby, Dennis $775,000$775,000	Kokkonen, Mikko $846,667$846,667 LD RFA - 2
Minten, Fraser $845,833$845,833 C, LW RFA - 3	Niemelä, Topi $856,667$856,667 RD RFA - 2	Hirvonen, Roni $856,667$856,667 LW RFA - 2
Cowan, Easton $935,833$935,833 LW, C RFA - 3	Chadwick, Noah $925,000$925,000 LD RFA - 3	Ovchinnikov, Dmitry $835,000$835,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 1
		Tverberg, Ryan $851,667$851,667 RW, C RFA - 3
		Kressler, Braeden $800,556$800,556 C RFA - 3
		Lisowsky, Brandon $925,000$925,000 LW RFA
		Ellis, Max $838,750$838,750 RW RFA - 1
		Voit, Ty $800,556$800,556 LW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender

Sep. 16, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.

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Do yall think Mazden Leslie gets an ELC?

Sep. 16, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.

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Quoting: HShockey

Do yall think Mazden Leslie gets an ELC?

I could see him signing with the Marlies. Same with Frasca

Sep. 16, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.

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Minten is going to be so good. The kid's already NHL ready with his defensive game.

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Sep. 16, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.

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I'd put Niemelä in that first group.

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Sep. 16, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.

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Mike Koster is one of my favorite NCAA players to watch. He is a long shot, but fun to watch play.

Sep. 16, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

I'd put Niemelä in that first group.

I can see him becoming a solid NHLer at the very least. He could really surprise though once he grows a bit.

Sep. 16, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.

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Quoting: RipNasty

I can see him becoming a solid NHLer at the very least. He could really surprise though once he grows a bit.

He's already reliable defensively and has no problem joining the rush.

Sep. 16, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

He's already reliable defensively and has no problem joining the rush.

I'm still not sold on his size. Also Treliving admitted himself that he likes defensemen that have some weight and are big

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Sep. 16, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

He's already reliable defensively and has no problem joining the rush.

I think he'll need some seasoning in the AHL first but yeah he could be really good

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Sep. 16, 2023 at 11:25 p.m.

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Quoting: Brad_Treliving

I'm still not sold on his size. Also Treliving admitted himself that he likes defensemen that have some weight and are big

Sounds like he would make for a good candidate for the next "guy that we needed and had but traded away".

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Sep. 16, 2023 at 11:32 p.m.

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Quoting: GMBL

Sounds like he would make for a good candidate for the next "guy that we needed and had but traded away".

Cowan is a future 3rd liner lol.

Hildeby is a future hall of famer

Niemla sucks, he couldn't hold his stick nevermind play hockey. I'd trade him for whatever we can get.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 12:54 a.m.

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Quoting: Brad_Treliving

I'm still not sold on his size. Also Treliving admitted himself that he likes defensemen that have some weight and are big

But talent can trump size. Look at Detroit it's no secret he likes big Dmen and he drafted ASP in the 1st round. ASP and Niemelä are listed as the same height but ASP a bit heaver.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 12:58 a.m.

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Quoting: RipNasty

I think he'll need some seasoning in the AHL first but yeah he could be really good

He is off to a good start in his first 6 games of North American hockey he 2 points and he had 5 points in 7 playoff games,

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Sep. 17, 2023 at 1:46 a.m.

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Quoting: PalhaI

Cowan is a future 3rd liner lol.

Hildeby is a future hall of famer

Niemla sucks, he couldn't hold his stick nevermind play hockey. I'd trade him for whatever we can get.

Wouldn't get much for him if he sucks, but the whole point thst I wss making is that he probably turns out elsewhere if not in Toronto. It's too early to write him off.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.

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Why would you want a 5th for Voit?

Sep. 17, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.

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Quoting: PalhaI

Cowan is a future 3rd liner lol.

Hildeby is a future hall of famer

Niemla sucks, he couldn't hold his stick nevermind play hockey. I'd trade him for whatever we can get.

You okay Pal?

Sep. 17, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.

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Quoting: aedoran

I'd put Niemelä in that first group.

I think and hope you're right, but honestly, if we're just basing it off the rookie tournament so far, he shouldn't be there. And I say that as a HUGE fan of Niemela and a believer in his potential. It hasn't been his best showing and what irks me is that it's been what I thought were his greatest strengths (intelligence, positioning, and puck management) that haven't reflected well on him.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.

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The "can we get our draft pick back" section is brutal.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Why would you want a 5th for Voit?

Small and undersize unfortunately. Dubas wasted a draft pick when he could have traded it to make the team deeper

Sep. 17, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

The "can we get our draft pick back" section is brutal.

Nah there are some low risk guys that could still have some worth. Voit is certainly skilled enough. Tverberg and Hiro as well look like they could eventually be NHLers. No stars that's for sure but cheap depth from later picks is never a bad thing.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.

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Quoting: Brad_Treliving

Small and undersize unfortunately. Dubas wasted a draft pick when he could have traded it to make the team deeper

You only see size eh? Write off anyone under 6 feet and 200 lbs immediately

Sep. 17, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.

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Quoting: RipNasty

Nah there are some low risk guys that could still have some worth. Voit is certainly skilled enough. Tverberg and Hiro as well look like they could eventually be NHLers. No stars that's for sure but cheap depth from later picks is never a bad thing.

That's what I mean. The list is brutal, not the players on it.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Brad_Treliving

Small and undersize unfortunately. Dubas wasted a draft pick when he could have traded it to make the team deeper

Voit has a better shot at the NHL than most 5th rounders do

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Sep. 17, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.

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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason

That's what I mean. The list is brutal, not the players on it.

Well the guy who posted this is basically Brian Burke so he'll immediately think anyone under 6' and 200lbs is too small to ever play.

Sep. 17, 2023 at 5:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Voit has a better shot at the NHL than most 5th rounders do

Lol no he doesn't

 

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