That ain't get him.
-2nd + 1st. That's more proper value (although, Sens fans don't think it's enough. But those are Sens fans so take their opinions with a grain of salt).

I think this could work but most of the Sens fans seem to think they will trade Brannstrom or something.

Out of curiosity, how do you see the phone call going?

Yzerman: Pierre, take the deal or we will offersheet him! I'm Yzerman, don't mess with me!
Pierre: You know Pinto can't be offer sheeted, right? Don't you know how offer sheets work?
Yzerman: .... I'll call you back, gotta CTRL-F my way through the CBA

Alternate call

Sens don't want Veleno, even for free. Pinto is worth a lot more than a 2nd.

Pinto can't be offer sheeted so thats an empty threat.

Yeah to be fair to the previous post at least that one was within reason, this is one is just bad.

Nice reasearch before making this thread

"Wings were going to offersheet the sens for pinto"


Nice quick summary but I'd take Veleno for free though. I would also trade Thomson for him (since we have no spot for Lassi)

No way he’d fetch a first unless it was for, a contender and who’s pick would be upper 20s. And if someone offer sheet him around 4 mil per the price is a 2nd this way they’d always get a young c and Former 1st who might benefit from a change of scenery with the likes of kasper and danielson coming which again is why I don’t see us making the deal anyways . Was just curious to see what team would look like

I am sorry but you have no idea of what you are talking about.

First, Pinto can NOT be offersheeted.

Second, in March, Ottawa decided to give up their 12th OA pick to acquire Chychrun instead of Pinto. So much for "No way he’d fetch a first", this is obviously not how they value him

IF (and that's a big IF) the Sens were looking to trade Pinto, Veleno and a 2nd ould not be pieces they'd be looking for

Wasn’t aware he couldn’t be offer sheeted so yes that obviously changes things for this season. Sens definetly ****ed up signing tarasenko before getting pinto done though. Prob deserves at least about 3 x the amount of cap space you currently have and will likely have to pay a price to get rid of someone

On the other hand, Tarasenko is alone worth more than the pick we'll have to give up to get rid of Joseph.

Yes I assumed since he was an rfa he could be ... let’s not pretend no one here’s never ****ed up . I got it wrong ... **** happens

Decided to use the 12th pick for Chychrun over pinto? Huh? Pinto was drafted by the sens

Worth more than a 2nd ? sure old tarasenko maybe not this one(I’d say tarasenko fetches a 2nd at the deadline, so about even) ... I’d have tried to get pinto locked in personally since he’s part of the future of the team and same age range as the core. We’ll see with tarasenko but he’s likely a one and done

He can't be offersheeted. He doesn't have enough games.

Veleno is worthless. A 2nd isnt enough for Pinto

You talked with a lot of certainty ("No way he’d fetch a first") so I pointed out a basic mistake to highlight that you didn't have the right info at all

No problem if you made a mistake but I also have the right to discredit your non-founded statement


"use"??? I said "give up"

Ya noticed after the fact . Anyways like I said it was just for fun and can’t see us ever making a play with larkin kasper danielson down the middle + compher signing

Well I don’t think he’d fetch a 1st that’s just my personal opinion. If he does it would be from a cup contending team cause with where they’d be picking might as well. Why wouldn’t tampa trade pick 26 for pinto? But can’t see a non playoff team moving a first for him , again just my take . It had nothing to do with him being offer sheeted or not. Just in that scenario where a 4 mill offer sheet would cost a 2nd there would be 0% chance of a 1st involved

Course you or anyone can correct myself or anyone when they got something wrong


Still don’t understand what your saying with using/giving up the pick to aquire chychrun and then mentioning pinto . Pinto was drafted by the sens so that pick has nothing to do with him

OK well, you need to understand that first. You know what happened last March 1st? The Ottawa Senators have acquired Jakob Chychrun from the Arizona Coyotes. It has been made well known that Ottawa did NOT want to part with Shane Pinto and decided to trade their first round pick instead, which subsequently became the 12th overall pick in the 2023 NHL draft.

So maybe the Ottawa Senators are the ONLY team in the NHL who value Pinto highly but I really doubt it. He was ranked as a ~top-35 NHL prospect both in 2021 and 2022 a bit everywhere


I can tell you with 99.99% certainty that the Senators wouldn`t trade Shane Pinto for a late 1st round pick.


ok but that is something that you mentioned. No one else did as we have known that Pinto can`t be OS for a while now