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Pinto for Swayman

Created by: csick
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 25, 2023
Published: Sep. 25, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Swayman, Jeremy ($1,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
3rd team takes Forsberg and the 2nd and retain 1 mill on Swayman
BOS
  1. Forsberg, Anton
  2. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
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2024
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2025
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21$83,500,000$80,704,880$0$1,850,000$2,795,120
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW, C
UFA
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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UFA - 5
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UFA - 4
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$2,475,000$2,475,000
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RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Sep. 25, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.
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Ottawa signed Korpisalo. They are happy with their started. They don't need Swayman right now (even though Swayman is better in my mind).
Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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I think you’d have better luck getting a 3rd back
Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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Quoting: DustinBrown1989
I think you’d have better luck getting a 3rd back


Is this one of your other burners 😂. Yeesh get creative dude
Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Is this one of your other burners 😂. Yeesh get creative dude


Just stating my opinion
Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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I thought Ottawa was not selling Pinto
Sep. 25, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I thought Ottawa was not selling Pinto


They’re not but for a goalie that can give us .920+ we’d be top 3 in the division
Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.
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Lot of “Ottawa doesn’t need Swayman” comments but really guys Korpisalo isn’t in the same tier as Swayman.
And with Norris and Stuzie you guys can afford to move Pinto for this kind of upgrade.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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double
Sep. 25, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Lot of “Ottawa doesn’t need Swayman” comments but really guys Korpisalo isn’t in the same tier as Swayman.
And with Norris and Stuzie you guys can afford to move Pinto for this kind of upgrade.


He's not but the point is that the Sens already committed to a goalie and for a long term. They are unlikely to be looking for another at a high price point like Swayman will be getting next season.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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He's not but the point is that the Sens already committed to a goalie and for a long term. They are unlikely to be looking for another at a high price point like Swayman will be getting next season.


Why not? Boston did and now they can afford to get a good return on one goalie while still having another one! Goalies are such a risk just look at your recent history with Murray or Edmonton right now with Campbell, just cause you paid Korpisalo doesn’t mean he’s going to be the answer.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Why not? Boston did and now they can afford to get a good return on one goalie while still having another one! Goalies are such a risk just look at your recent history with Murray or Edmonton right now with Campbell, just cause you paid Korpisalo doesn’t mean he’s going to be the answer.


Why not? Cap restraints. The AGM already has a team retaining on Swayman and that's just going to get worse going foward. It's hard to apportion a large amount of cap to a position who's players will only play half the games.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.
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Why not? Cap restraints. The AGM already has a team retaining on Swayman and that's just going to get worse going foward. It's hard to apportion a large amount of cap to a position who's players will only play half the games.


Still your allotting what 9 mil to goalies or 10% of the future cap for a very important position and if Korpisalo struggles this team goes from playoffs to lottery pick and that would be a huge disappointment, you may be right but I’m one that prefers caution and as Swayman Korpisalo tandem would give me a lot less concern than Forsberg Korpisalo
Sep. 25, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Still your allotting what 9 mil to goalies or 10% of the future cap for a very important position and if Korpisalo struggles this team goes from playoffs to lottery pick and that would be a huge disappointment, you may be right but I’m one that prefers caution and as Swayman Korpisalo tandem would give me a lot less concern than Forsberg Korpisalo


That's a pretty low bar. Swayman - anyone would give me a lot less concern than Korpisalo - Forsberg.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Byrr
That's a pretty low bar. Swayman - anyone would give me a lot less concern than Korpisalo - Forsberg.


Wait so now you’re in agreement with me??? I’m lost.
Sep. 25, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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No
Sep. 25, 2023 at 11:45 p.m.
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Uh.... goalies don't have that kind of value lol

This is about what Chychrun returned

12th OA (Pinto) + 2nd (2nd) + 3rd (Forsberg)

Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Ottawa signed Korpisalo. They are happy with their started. They don't need Swayman right now (even though Swayman is better in my mind).

Yeah, I don't understand why Csick is making this ACGM

Korpisalo - Forsberg - Sogaard - Merilainen

Sens goaltending shouldn't be touched for a while, based on contracts and potential

Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
if Korpisalo struggles this team goes from playoffs to lottery pic

Forsberg, Sogaard

They both looked quite good in the game they played.
Sep. 26, 2023 at 1:06 a.m.
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My issue with this is the Norris's uncertain status. If he's hurt again/still, can we really run with Greig as the 2C? I don't think so and this year we don't have a Brassard type player as insurance. And while it's not a bad return, I worry about the message this would send to Korpisalo who was just signed long term to be the #1.
 
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