Not a chance from LA.

Yea I was thinking the 1st would have to dropped to be realistic

LA absolutely declines, Neither Danault or Roy are going anywhere.

You’re right, I was thinking nylander is probably worth danault and a first. But timmins and lafferty probably not enough for Roy

I’m only thinking this allows byfield to play his natural position as the 3C and Clarke replaces Roy

My sentiments exactly. And LA shouldn’t move either player anyways both are great pieces if you’re trying to compete. I love Danault and still don’t know why Montreal let him walk.

That’s true, this move could make LA’s top 6 stronger and move byfield to center and give Brandt Clarke more minutes

It’s a thought but do you have a 1RD to take Roy’s spot?

There's much more behind the denial than the 1st.

Roy fills a spot on the right side that LA has absolutely noone in line to replace. Danault as the 3C was the entire reason why LA went after PLD -- they want to run the three best centers in the West. Byfield is learning (and getting 1st line minutes) besides the person he'll need to eventually replace in Kopitar, and that line was among the best in the league after he was added to it last year. They aren't going to break it up.

The 1st is icing on the cake to what would already be roster destroying move, and we still haven't gone over how this STILL puts the Kings in a worse cap situation if they want to try to keep Nylander. When he asks for 9+mil, plus the two guys added on, you're looking at a cap of > 11mil, whereas with the two guys you have (if Roy gets extended to ~5 after this year), the Kings end up paying more for 1 difference-maker than they would for 2 already in the system.

I’m not disagreeing with you, I commented asking if you had a replacement for Roy and said Danault is a great piece for a contender. He’s the perfect middle 6 C in that he is a defensive stud who chips in 20+ goals. Nylander is an Elite player no doubt but you just moved 2 very good players on reasonable deals for a wing who wants 10 mil. That isn’t in the LA cards right now I wouldn’t think.

LA already has their own Nylander locked up for the next 6 years. They value what Danault and Roy bring much more

Also Calgary doesn't have cap space fpr that

Leafs have Kampf as a shut down C. He has done a great job there for the past 2 years. They also have Matthews who has amazing defensive numbers. Danault is a clear upgrade over Kampf. BUT we don't need a shut down C.

Why not? You guys have PLD signed long term. Kopitar probably retires after his contract is done. Byfield can slot into his natural center position. Does it really make sense for the Kings to pay Danault that much money as a 3rd line center? One of the Kings many problems against the Oilers is not being able to match their scoring, and adding Nylander helps that.
Trading Roy is a big loss, but there is a good chance he leaves in free agency. He can get more money and a bigger role on another team. Kings are stuck with Daughty and have Clarke waiting.

Calgary says no

Yes. They signed him specifically to be the 3rd line center.

The Kings didn't lose because they couldn't match Edmonton's scoring. If anyone gets into a scoring match with the Oilers, they're going to lose. They lost because they couldn't stay out of the penalty box and couldn't stop the big guns from scoring in certain situations. Getting rid of Danault only makes that worse. As you said, Kopitar will likely retire soon, and when that happens, Danault will be their only remaining shutdown center. Move him, and they went from two elite shutdown centers to zero in only a few seasons.

Matt Roy will be extended. The Kings have no one in the pipeline to replace what he brings to the lineup. Faber was the guy that was going to be his eventual replacement. Now that he's not in the system any longer, the Kings have no one to replace him. Roy will likely get a decent sized raise, but Clarke is on a cheap ELC for the next 3 years. Gavrikov's contract falls off the books before Clarke will get his payday. By the time Clarke is ready to take over as 1RD, Doughty will be on the wrong side of 35 and will start moving down the lineup.

There's absolutely no reason for the Kings to do this.

Read it again, I said scoring was one of the Kings many problems against the Oilers. No way you guys signed him to be a third line guy. He's only a third line guy cuz you landed PLD. I get what you're saying, but prioritizing to keep a declining, shutdown center in lieu of a 80 point scorer ain't it.
Roy is very good at what he does, but I don't think its as black and white as you think it is. Daughty is already a liability and you guys are paying him 11mill to play top pair mins. With his contract, no way he plays less than a second pairing role, despite how much he declines. That leaves Roy or Clarke playing on the third pair, which makes no sense. Unless one of them goes to their offwing, which is so rare.

100% not true. The Kings told Danault prior to signing him that the long term plan was for him to start at 2C and move down to 3C once Byfield was ready. When Byfield didn't emerge as quickly as expected, the Kings went out and traded for Dubois. Here's a quote from his media availability immediately following his signing.

I think you need three good centers to win, so 2C or 3C isn't that big of a deal... other than maybe a little bit of ice time. -- Danault

If you think Doughty is a liability, you're not watching. Anderson and Doughty were one of the single best pairings in the NHL for the last two seasons. Is he worth $11M? No, but that doesn't mean he's not a top quality 1D any longer. I'm not sure why his contract makes any difference in where he plays in the lineup. If in the final years of his contract, he's not playing up to snuff, he'll play further down in the lineup. If Clarke signs a bridge deal for one season, then there's more than enough room to fit all three of them.

If you have Roy playing with Bjornfot and Clarke playing with Gavrikov, then you have three "top four" defensive pairings, which is necessary for any true Cup contender. The Kings had Alec Martinez playing on the 3rd pair on both of their Cup winning teams, and there's no doubt he's a top four guy.

Food for thought for defensive centers…

Noah Cates
Aleksi Protas (can play C)
Jack Drury
Michael Rasmussen
Jason Dickinson

The chance of William Nylander leaving in June 2024 is about 50 times greater than the chance of Matt Roy doing so.

Decent trade for the Flames, but why would Jarnkrok come back? There’s a reason he left

Brutal for us. We need younger players, but good ones. Robertson is made of glass and Jarnkrok didn’t work for us the first time we had him.

Robertson still has good potential, but a lot would need to go right in order for that trade to turn out well for the Flames