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In my eyes and not a habs fan zegras trade im a preds fan btw

Created by: AD88
Published: Sep. 28, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Anaheim DucksAnaheim Ducks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fowler, CamAnaheim DucksNHL25%$4,848,790011---0000--
Zegras, TrevorAnaheim DucksNHL-$0011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeWaivers ExemptAnaheim DucksNHL-$831,339011---0000--
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nurse, DarnellEdmonton OilersNHL-$9,200,269011---0000--
Faulk, JustinSt. Louis BluesNHL-$6,465,054011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeWaivers ExemptSt. Louis BluesNHL-$831,339011---0000--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$16,635,8332241613912
Change-$10,816,53301001-1
Final$5,819,300 (↓)2242 (↑)61310 (↑)11 (↓)000

Logo of the Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fowler, CamEdmonton OilersNHL-$4,848,790011---0000--
Nurse, DarnellEdmonton OilersNHL-$9,200,269011---0000--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
2026 5th round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fowler, CamAnaheim DucksNHL25%$4,848,790011---0000--
Zegras, TrevorAnaheim DucksNHL-$0011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeWaivers ExemptAnaheim DucksNHL-$831,339011---0000--
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Anaheim DucksANA)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$390,7922243563411
Change$8,368,9301010-20
Final$7,978,138 (↑)23 (↑)4357 (↑)32 (↓)11000

Logo of the St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Faulk, JustinSt. Louis BluesNHL-$6,465,054011---0000--
Neighbours, JakeWaivers ExemptSt. Louis BluesNHL-$831,339011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Fowler, CamEdmonton OilersNHL-$4,848,790011---0000--
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
2026 5th round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$293,5712348693810
Change$2,447,603-1-1-1011
Final$2,741,174 (↑)22 (↓)47 (↓)68 (↓)39 (↑)11 (↑)000
Sep. 28, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?
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Sep. 28, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: GM69
Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


And take Nurse’s contract as well 🤡

Fowler says absolutely not as well
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Sep. 28, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
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the team that gets Nurse automatically loses the trade.
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Sep. 28, 2023 at 5:20 p.m.
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Ehh no.
Sep. 28, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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Quoting: GM69
Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣
Sep. 28, 2023 at 6:27 p.m.
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This does nothing for the blues at all. Why would they consider this trade?
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Sep. 28, 2023 at 7:27 p.m.
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Quoting: penguinswin
What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣


In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also @Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...
Sep. 28, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.
Sep. 28, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.


Oilers fan what are u talking about? Oilers would say no immediately will keep nurse
Sep. 28, 2023 at 11:21 p.m.
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What? Not a huge fan of Jake Neighbors? 🤣🤣🤣


Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.
This trade is brutal for everyone but EDM
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Sep. 28, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.
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Oilers fan what are u talking about? Oilers would say no immediately will keep nurse


LOL
Sep. 29, 2023 at 12:46 a.m.
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Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.


It's payment for the retention on Fowler... They get Neighbors for 5 minutes.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
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blues say no, then no again, and again. this is such an awful deal for the blues, giving up our best defenceman (as of rn), and one of our best young guys whos on the brink of a breakout season, for a different version of torey krug and a couple mid picks? nah
Sep. 29, 2023 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Dutchies
Neighbors winds up in EDM based on this..........he's in and out or ANA for some reason.
This trade is brutal for everyone but EDM


Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also @Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


Yeah my bad....I missed that part when I first read it🤦
Oct. 2, 2023 at 11:13 a.m.
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Quoting: RukaRadebe
In the proposal Neighbours doesn't even stay in Anaheim - in and out!

Also Canucksfan88 you claim to be a Preds fan but your username says otherwise...


made the acc when i was leaving nucks but atleast neighbours pulled out
Oct. 2, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.
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Wait... so ducks give up Zegras and don't get one valuable asset back?


They get cap space retain a new Defenseman with a lower cap and i genuinely meant to put neighbours on ducks i dont get how i messed up they also gain nurse whihc isnt ****ty but isnt good lose fowler as hes getting older and a bit of a waist of space and gain some younger guys and was sipposed to gain Neighbours
Oct. 2, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Yeah and this trade proposal suggests he's actually an oiler fan in hiding.


I meant to have neighbours on the ducks i dont get where i went wrong :l
Oct. 2, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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They get cap space retain a new Defenseman with a lower cap and i genuinely meant to put neighbours on ducks i dont get how i messed up they also gain nurse whihc isnt ****ty but isnt good lose fowler as hes getting older and a bit of a waist of space and gain some younger guys and was sipposed to gain Neighbours


Nurse is probably one of the worst contracts in the entire NHL and doesn't fit the build of the ducks (he's 28). Yeah they are getting rid of Fowler, but getting Faulk who is the same age but more expensive.. Neighbors is a meh prospect that at most ends up being a contending teams 3rd/4th liner or rebuilding teams 2nd/3rd liner. Keep in mind what St Louis is giving up Neighbors for in the first place (not much).

If Edmonton wants to get Zegras there is no package that doesn't start with Bourgault and a 1st at bare minimum. Probably includes another better prospect or a young roster player as well. Not to mention, you will also have to pay a team a hefty fee (at least a 1st rounder) to take that Nurse contract and that is even IF he waives his NMC (which he has for the next 4 seasons, followed by only 10 teams he can be traded to for another 3 years after that).
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Oct. 2, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Nurse is probably one of the worst contracts in the entire NHL and doesn't fit the build of the ducks (he's 28). Yeah they are getting rid of Fowler, but getting Faulk who is the same age but more expensive.. Neighbors is a meh prospect that at most ends up being a contending teams 3rd/4th liner or rebuilding teams 2nd/3rd liner. Keep in mind what St Louis is giving up Neighbors for in the first place (not much).

If Edmonton wants to get Zegras there is no package that doesn't start with Bourgault and a 1st at bare minimum. Probably includes another better prospect or a young roster player as well. Not to mention, you will also have to pay a team a hefty fee (at least a 1st rounder) to take that Nurse contract and that is even IF he waives his NMC (which he has for the next 4 seasons, followed by only 10 teams he can be traded to for another 3 years after that).


fair enough i only make these to see the backlash from ass trades like so but i did mean to put neigbours on ducks and faulk to edm
Oct. 2, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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Why exactly do the Blues do this? Neighbors will probably only top as a 2nd line guy but he plays a heavy game and is a heavy compete player, definitely not a whatever player to throw in. Regardless, swapping Faulk for Fowler makes even less sense. They're probably pretty similar in how they play the game, Fowler is probably a little worse defensively. This leaves the Blues with long-term contracts to Krug, Fowler and Leddy. None of which are capable of filling the void that has been troubling the defense and now there's a glaring hole at RD in which we have nobody in the system to fill. The depth chart then looks like this

Leddy Parayko
Fowler Bortuzzo
Krug Matthew Kessel
Tucker
Perunovich
Rosen

Of guys who can at least play in the NHL or are fringe guys. It has effectively made our defense worse, locked up the defense for the same term (1 year less now that i look at it), created a rather large hole with no close fills, and gave away a solid ELC player for a 3rd and a 5th and effectively what looks like 1.6m in cap savings.

Just curious for the reasoning for the Blues to entertain the swap.
 
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