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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 25, 2023
Published: Oct. 25, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Kubalik, Dominik
  3. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
2.
OTT
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Weber, Shea
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$79,774,047$0$1,850,000$3,725,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$916,667$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2

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Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:48 p.m.
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Yeah, no.

Don't think this deal would interest CAR.

Chabot is worth 3 times that trade.
Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:48 p.m.
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Makes a ton of sense this guarantees playoffs
Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Yeah, no.

CAR easily says no.

Chabot is worth 3 times that trade.


Carolina is having difficulty with negotiations. Getting a young centre back and more ? I’m not sure they say no
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Makes a ton of sense this guarantees playoffs


Really not liking the way the current team is playing. They don’t defend properly
Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Yeah, no.

CAR easily says no.

Chabot is worth 3 times that trade.


Why would Carolina say no? Pinto is worth a 1st and a 2nd then they throw in another second Bernard docker is probably worth a 2nd or two thirds at least not sure on kubaliks value but he’s a decent player
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.
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Really not liking the way the current team is playing. They don’t defend properly


That’s fair but they’re doing well
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Why would Carolina say no? Pinto is worth a 1st and a 2nd then they throw in another second Bernard docker is probably worth a 2nd or two thirds at least not sure on kubaliks value but he’s a decent player


JBD is a throw in since they’re trading a Dman but yeah if Kubalik is worth a 3rd and Pinto is worth a 1st and 2nd , it’s probably fair value for Pesce
Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
That’s fair but they’re doing well


They’re desperately missing Zub. They’ve given way too many chances without him
Oct. 25, 2023 at 5:59 p.m.
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Why would Carolina say no? Pinto is worth a 1st and a 2nd then they throw in another second Bernard docker is probably worth a 2nd or two thirds at least not sure on kubaliks value but he’s a decent player


No team claimed JBD off waivers, he's not worth much. And basically this would be less than Chychrun got, and Arizona was desperate, and Pesce is a RHD. His numbers are elite, I see no reason for CAR to do this unless they don't think Pesce is re-signing. There are also lots of reasons for Ottawa to not want that uncertainty
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Yeah, no.

Don't think this deal would interest CAR.

Chabot is worth 3 times that trade.


Quoting: csick
Really not liking the way the current team is playing. They don’t defend properly


They’re .500 and there is 76 games left. I’m with Claude G. It’s not time to panic.

It’s simple in my opinion (which is worthless, but still):

Kubalik —-> who cares lol
Pinto in…

It’s a long season. It’ll be a roller coaster ride.
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.
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Pesce was injured last night , he could be out for a while
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
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Pesce was injured last night , he could be out for a while


I know I want him tho
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
They’re desperately missing Zub. They’ve given way too many chances without him


Is he injured?
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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What reason do the Canes have to do this? The Canes are better with Pesce rather than moving him.
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: JesikaMorris
Is he injured?


He missed the last 2 games. Which they both lost and gave up too many scoring chances. Sanderson-Zub was such a good shutdown pair
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
He missed the last 2 games. Which they both lost and gave up too many scoring chances. Sanderson-Zub was such a good shutdown pair


Oh damn that’s unfortunate when’s he expected back?
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:48 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Really not liking the way the current team is playing. They don’t defend properly


I think a coaching change is in order before major roster shakeup. They defend the same way they have since DJ got here. It's been half a decade, the only conclusion is that this is DJ Defense working as intended. They should have fired him the day after Bruce Cassidy was fired in Boston.

But to the larger point, I'm spending more and more time wondering what this team looks like without Chabot, even though it sickens me. I think trading him for Crowse is one of the dumbest things I've seen in a while tho. Only makes sense if you're moving him and getting a less costly top 4 RHD.
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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I know I want him tho


He's confirmed out for a while. Also it's best not to dismantle the best defensive core we've had since 06-07 for spare parts and Lawson Crouse.
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Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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Is he injured?


He's day to day. Missed two, but it's not really been talked about as something major. Took a Ovi shot to his ear
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
He's day to day. Missed two, but it's not really been talked about as something major. Took a Ovi shot to his ear


That’s bad luck lol
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.
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That’s a bad luck lol


Yeah. That Sanderson-Zub pairing really levels out the entire blueline. They're so good together, the team is so disorganized defensively without him.
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Oct. 26, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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This conversation is pointless bc Pesce has a NTC and is not going to Canada.
Oct. 26, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Carolina is having difficulty with negotiations. Getting a young centre back and more ? I’m not sure they say no

Yeah but would Pesce sign long term in Ottawa? That would be really bad if not (even with the Pinto news)

Quoting: csick
Really not liking the way the current team is playing. They don’t defend properly

Not a players/talent problem. Bring in as many new players as you want, coaching and management would still be the same

Look at who our best players are so far this year and how long they have played on this team...
 
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