You actually went out of your way to offer your parts that wouldn't really hurt you to lose? Why would Nashville do this? More quality, less quantity.

Gritsyuk has been a very strong producer in the KHL with 80 points in his first 126 games. Playing top six at SKA at 22 years of age, and he’s confirmed coming over. While Casey has 49 points in 51 games at Michigan at 19 years of age. I don’t think the devils or really any organization wouldn’t hurt losing them. Along with most likely a first round pick

Seamus casey has 25 points in 15 games as a dman in college this year. To put that into perspective, Brock faber (who you claimed was a top end prospect at that time of his trade), had 26 points in 59 games in his college career at that time

They are very different tho, I’m a big Casey fan, always thought he should’ve been a first round pick even before NJ drafted him. Faber is going to be a backbone defense first guy where Casey is going to be your powerplay technician and break out and zone entry defenseman

The point was to illustrate a comparison with a prospect he knows. Similar draft capital, casey lightyears ahead in production.

Being on pace to score 30 points in a full KHL season at 22-23 isn't an impressive feat. This is a dime a dozen player that most teams have some version of. Casey is a little better, but he's an undersized PMD/offensive D with a lot to work on defensively before he turns pro, and his small stature isn't going to help. These aren't premier pieces. Add in a conditional 1st on a guy who isn't NHL ready playing in 40% of the NHL games, and that pick is not converting to a 1st.

In return you're asking for one of the top goaltending prospects in the world that Nashville has no reason to give up on. It's just not an enticing package to make NSH want to move him. If Saros leaves and NSH already traded Askarov for this? That's not a good outcome for them.

No I didn't

But he could at least play defense at the time of his trade. Can't begin to count the number of small offensive D who have flamed out while trying to transition from juniors/college to the pros.

Casey's defensive metrics are great.

In college? What defensive metrics? Show me. Or do you store those next to where I said Faber was a top end prospect?

Yeah that doesn't look great.

Looks like a good offensive PMD at the college level though.

You claimed faber's value in July 2022 was more than Holtz or Mercer is now. Considering Holtz has been a consensus top 25-50 prospect and Mercer a quality top 6 player already at 21, for a prospect to be more valuable than them he'd clearly have to be a top end prospect.

These were casey's metrics as a freshman last year, and I'll provide a few other prospects for context
Metrics
Luke Hughes sophmore
Brock Faber Junior
Brock Faber sophmore
Lane Hutson freshman

His 'overall' score is literally the best in the league what does it matter that his defense is lower? He's above average defensively!

And this is from his freshman year!

In those areas, as a sophmore, Faber was at 77,68,77,41 respectively

Faber more valuable than Mercer? Huh?

This is Casey's freshman year chart

Yep, and Hartman worth Mercer+ a 1st.

It's a good read Delusion

Go get him , we need that in our game rn!

Nashville was willing to trade Askarov+ for MTL 2023 1st (5th overall). If they trade him, it'll be for a high end prospect. I can't see them trade him for multiple pieces.

Not touching the value of the trade, you should not expect Askarov to step right in as your NHL starter in a year you’re trying to contend. He’s only ever played one NHL game. It only hurts you to rush him into the big leagues

He’s worth a shot. It’s not like he’s coming straight from Juniors he’s played KHL, and has looked good in the AHL. Goalies development are the farthest from linear and they tend to never resemble each other’s growth.
This dudes talent is worth gambling on

1. The difference between juniors and college is huge.
2. The 'smallish' dmen that have put up offense like this are only guys like Quinn, Makar, Fox...(guys like Schultz, Krug, Benning, Butcher were significant step behind in production)

First 15 games of sophomore seasons.....

Name...................GP - G - A - Pts

Seamus Casey…..15 - 5 - 20 - 25
Adam Fox…..........15 - 6 - 17 - 23
Owen Power….....15 - 3 - 18 - 21
Cale Makar…........15 - 6 - 14 - 20
Quinn Hughes…..15 - 3 - 16 - 19

Scott Perunovich..15 - 2 - 15 - 17
Justin Schultz…......15 - 6 - 10 - 16
Luke Hughes…......15 - 2 - 12 - 14
Zach Werenski…..15 - 6 - 8 - 14
Mike Benning…....15 - 6 - 8 - 14

Torey Krug….........15 - 4 - 9 - 13
Will Butcher…........15 - 3 - 9 - 12
Scott Morrow….....15 - 4 - 8 - 12
Ian Mitchell….........15 - 2 - 9 - 11