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Created by: clapperzzz11
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 24, 2023
Published: Nov. 24, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$775,000
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PHI
  1. Nurse, Darnell
  2. Skinner, Stuart
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Lindström, Gustav
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (MTL)
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MTL
  1. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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the 1st is to get rid of nurses contract, so skinner and a 3rd isnt enough for frost and hart
Nov. 24, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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So your answer is to make the defense even worse? Baffling.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
the 1st is to get rid of nurses contract, so skinner and a 3rd isnt enough for frost and hart


Nurse contrat is a bit over is value, but EDM don't have to GET RID of. He has some value. Maybe a new team will help him by being better.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 9:55 a.m.
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Gotta think bruins and Montreal decline
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
So your answer is to make the defense even worse? Baffling.


That's not worse. Lindstrom is better than Desharnais.
Girard don't have the offensive side of Nurse, but have a better defensive side.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
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Quoting: clapperzzz11
Nurse contrat is a bit over is value, but EDM don't have to GET RID of. He has some value. Maybe a new team will help him by being better.


hes at least 2mil overpaid for a long time more, doesnt have value at 9.25
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.
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Quoting: clapperzzz11
That's not worse. Lindstrom is better than Desharnais.
Girard don't have the offensive side of Nurse, but have a better defensive side.

From what do you derive this judgement? Whether from my eye test, simple statistical measures, or more in-depth analysis, Girard is genuinely bad at defense and gets exploited for it regularly while playing an easier role than Nurse has.

As for Lindstrom, he'd be at best a marginal upgrade on Desharnais and, even then, I'm not certain.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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In the offseason, if Debrusk has not extended, sure, until then…no.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Hughes hangs up!! Talks to Gorton, has a good laugh and then goes to Schwartz`s and orders a Smoked Meat Sandwich and forgets you ever called
Nov. 24, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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Avs decline. Moving Girard would be for futures not to add cap.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Avs decline. Moving Girard would be for futures not to add cap.


I don’t agree. RNH at $5.125M is such a sweet deal. I don’t like the age and the term, but that would lock down 2C for the rest of the cup window. I think Edmonton declines that pretty easily.
Nov. 24, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
From what do you derive this judgement? Whether from my eye test, simple statistical measures, or more in-depth analysis, Girard is genuinely bad at defense and gets exploited for it regularly while playing an easier role than Nurse has.

As for Lindstrom, he'd be at best a marginal upgrade on Desharnais and, even then, I'm not certain.


I don’t agree on Girard. He’s just a different defenseman. Good at rush defense, but doesn’t play very physically and doesn’t clear the net front like the big body defensemen of the past. But he’s a solid defenseman. Not the answer to Edmonton’s problems, but still solid.
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Nov. 24, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: turtlemountain
I don’t agree. RNH at $5.125M is such a sweet deal. I don’t like the age and the term, but that would lock down 2C for the rest of the cup window. I think Edmonton declines that pretty easily.


Would it really be though? Bearing in mind that we'd probably be having to move out RyJo & Manson and possibly paying to do so with the cap situation. Is Nuge that good? Open to debate but I don't think it works for the Avs.
Nov. 25, 2023 at 5:33 p.m.
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Would it really be though? Bearing in mind that we'd probably be having to move out RyJo & Manson and possibly paying to do so with the cap situation. Is Nuge that good? Open to debate but I don't think it works for the Avs.


I’d say no matter what, we’d probably need to move on from Manson, so let’s just call that a wash.

Basically, you’d be trading Girard (a solid player in a 3/4D role) for RNH (a high end 2C). Girard would need to be replaced by someone who would likely be a downgrade. I’d argue that RNH is a larger upgrade over Johansen than Girard would be over whoever we’d get in free agency. There’s still risk, but RNH is real good.
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Nov. 30, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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Why would you go get Girard knowing he isnt playing right now? He recently stepped out of the game for personal issues…
 
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