Trade The Core Four And Jumpstart A Rebuild

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Created by: KingExLeafs

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 5, 2023

Published: Dec. 5, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If you still think a team without a defense, a goalie and a coach can win a Stanley Cup, give your head a shake. This team was constructed badly. Awful contracts were handed out, gritty forecheckers like Hyman, Kadri, and Moore were moved on from and replaced with soft skilled guys who disappear in the playoffs every year. Imagine a third line of Hyman - Kadri - Moore. Leafs could have had that if they were managed better all these years.

Shanahan needs to go. He should have left with Dubas in the summer. And he needs to take Treliving and Keefe with him.

Enough is enough with this "core four" foolishness. Let's hope the Leafs actually start to build a real hockey team, from the net out. The new team should have an elite goalie in net, stars on the defense, and grit up front. The only players on the current roster I'd keep long-term are Knies, Cowan, and Rielly. Make Rielly the new captain, he should be a Leaf for life.

Trades

TOR

Garland, Conor
Myers, Tyler
Willander, Tom [Reserve List]
2025 1st round pick (VAN)
2026 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

McCabe, Jake
Tavares, John ($3,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Miller moves to the wing, or to match up against the Kings in the playoffs, JT is stapled to the 3rd line. If the Canucks are serious about winning a cup, and I think they have the defense, coach, and goalie to do it, they need to bring in a legitimate center to compete with L.A. and Vegas.

TOR

O'Connor, Logan
Olausson, Oskar
Tatar, Tomas
2024 1st round pick (COL)
2026 3rd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Tatar and O'Connor are cap filler. The trade is a 1st and a prospect plus a 3rd for the retention.

COL

Nylander, William ($3,450,000 retained)

TOR

Mantha, Anthony
McMichael, Connor
Oshie, T.J.
2025 1st round pick (WSH)
2025 2nd round pick (WSH)

WSH

Marner, Mitchell

Additional Details:

Marner waives to help Ovi beat the Gretzky record and then signs for a true contender once his current deal is up.

TOR

Simashev, Dmitri [Reserve List]
Söderström, Victor
Voracek, Jakub
Zucker, Jason
2024 1st round pick (ARI)
2025 1st round pick (ARI)
2025 2nd round pick (TOR)

ARI

Matthews, Auston

Additional Details:

Now that Arizona is competitive and in a playoff spot they can dream bigger and really shake up the hockey universe by bringing home their very own.

Retained Salary Transactions

John Tavares: $3,000,000 (27.27%)
William Nylander: $3,450,000 (49.55%)

Buried

Ryan Reaves: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$71,065,000	$0	$0	$12,435,000

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	McMichael, Connor $863,333$863,333 LW, C RFA - 1	O'Connor, Logan $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Olausson, Oskar $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 3
Tatar, Tomas $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Mantha, Anthony $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Zucker, Jason $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 2		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.

Logicalicesports

Joined: Feb. 2023

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This is one of the deals I could see the Capitals actually doing which sucks because McMichael is one of the only positives lights on this team outside of Protas

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.

mv21227

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The only way the Canucks consider moving Willander is if they’re getting a bonafide top 4 RHD that fits the age of our core. Leafs don’t have that to offer

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: mv21227

The only way the Canucks consider moving Willander is if they’re getting a bonafide top 4 RHD that fits the age of our core. Leafs don’t have that to offer

Liljegren

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.

All_Knowing

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Quoting: Logicalicesports

This is one of the deals I could see the Capitals actually doing which sucks because McMichael is one of the only positives lights on this team outside of Protas

I disagree actually. Caps will- make a big pursuit for Nylander in offseason and keep assets. Plus, Oshie will most likely go to LTIR at the end of the season

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.

palhal

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Leafs certainly aren't getting much for Marner, except bad cap in return. Not getting much for Matthews who is signed for 4.5m years.
Tavares doesn't waive.

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.

mv21227

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Liljegren

I like Liljegren but he doesn’t fit that description. I’m talking about a guy like a Rasmus Andersson or Noah Dobson (not saying those two are likely to be traded, but a player like that)

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: palhal

Leafs certainly aren't getting much for Marner, except bad cap in return. Not getting much for Matthews who is signed for 4.5m years.
Tavares doesn't waive.

In the Matthews deal Leafs are getting the equivalent of 4 1sts. In the Marner deal, which only has 1 year and a half left, plus he's overpaid by 2 million, Leafs get back two good picks and a good young player.

That's fair.

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.

Marked_Difference

Joined: Oct. 2022

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The AZ trade is fascinating. The trade value is pretty spot on for Matthews, but Simashev is a difficult add. But and Simashev were drafted together to allow for the Russian transition, in retrospect it was a brilliant move. Both players are NHL caliber, reasonable comps Slavin and a bigger stronger faster Corey Perry (terrifying thought, I know). They should remain as a package. Maybe swap out Simashev for Geekie? That kid is going to be a monster with proper development, Nic Lindstrom kind of potential.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.

swissmontana

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This is the first kinda interesting Nylander-to-COL in a minute. They have no chance to re-sign him, it's a rental, but that's a goooood rental.

I probably wouldn't do it but it's bc i like LoC too much

Dec. 5, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.

#10

SharkTank

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Never happen. Leafs are too in love with their shiny toys.

Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.

#11

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: SharkTank

Never happen. Leafs are too in love with their shiny toys.

Unfortunately true

Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.

#12

TheAlien

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No fu*kin way the Canucks are trading Willander for that. Like someone has said the only way they trade him is for a bonafide young top4 RD. The keyword there is bonafide which means Lilijegren doesn't count either.

Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.

#13

BeautifulIdiot

This team kills me

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Where is the value that the Canucks are getting back

Dec. 5, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.

#14

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot

Where is the value that the Canucks are getting back

They get back a 1C at 8 million for 2 playoff runs and a top 4 defenceman at 2 million for 2 more years. They also get rid of the horrible Myers and Garland contracts without having to pay any picks or adding any sweeteners.

This is a deal that favours the Canucks.

Dec. 5, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.

#15

mv21227

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Tavares would be the 3rd best C on the Canucks

Myers contract ends after this season and Garland’s isn’t that bad. No need to get out of either contract

Dec. 5, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.

#16

TJTwolf

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Oh God it's back! Nylander is a rental for the Avs and while the value is at least reasonable the Avs can't afford to rent him.

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