Terrible for the Leafs. Bert to our biggest rivals isn’t happening, and Nylander for a late 1st and Pod isn’t a good return whatsoever on TOP of retention

Why would the sell at the deadline? That’s not what you do when your window to win is now. Picks and prospects don’t help you win, impact players that play their role do. From a business perspective this is just plain dumb. You would lose the trust of the players and have a hard time signing free agents if you start selling when the team has a chance to win

This team has zero chance to win in April. And this is not a complete tear down. And those picks can be flipped at next year's deadline if the Leafs are in a position to contend.

They are simply not good enough right now to buy at the deadline. And I don't see Nylander signing for anything less than 11 million so why not trade him?

From a GM perspective.. if you think the team is not good enough then you make moves to strengthen your core while you can. You don’t wait for years and sell off valuable pieces cause you don’t know how the future will work out - you take your chance now. Just get into the playoffs and anything can happen. Every team believes that. But the WORST thing you can do is overreact like this and start making ridiculous moves for the future when your core is built to take the chance to win now.

You have the fan perspective, not the GM or management one.

why do you think being a troll is funny or cool

Canucks decline
They can’t afford Nylander.

I agree. I don't see the Canucks being able to afford the acquisition cost (e.g. they have already talked about not trading their 1st round pick) or the cap hit. I think Allvin and co. will probably just try to take their shot with Nylander in the summer, if they do at all.

This is not an overreaction. And it's Shanahan and Treliving who are operating from a fan's perspective.

You use the word troll a lot. Expand your vocabulary.

If they were to trade a player for futures every time they require a significant commitment, the team would just end up a farm team for the rest of the League.

It already is that under the current management. Hyman, Moore, Marchment, Sandin, Brown, Bunting, Kadri, so many players, picks and prospects gone, with nothing to show for it.

Giving Nylander an 11 million deal would be a big mistake. You commit big money to centers, defencemen, and goalies, not wingers.

do you think ur funny or cool being a clown?

That's better.

Every team has players who make it elsewhere and every team lets FA goes. Every teams goal is to win the Stanley Cup sooner or later, not to get an asset from every player that walks through the door.

Sandin was traded for a 1st, so if they have nothing to show for it then why would you suggest they do the same with a much better player than all the guys you listed?

Those players could have and should have been retained because they weren't demanding 11 million and didn't sit out the start of a season while they were RFA.

Hyman was let go for free, Kadri was given away for a lesser player and a D who wasn't retained, etc, etc. It just speaks to the mismanagement of this team during the Matthews era.

As bad as the Leafs are this season....apparently. Percentage wise they are 2nd in the Atlantic and 3rd in the East and 8th in the NHL.

8th is bad. It's further proof they are not a contender.

It felt to me that the Leafs were worse off than that. That's kind of decent

Barrie was let go for free and he was replaced by Brodie for free. Hyman was offered a deal but he didn't sign it, so you can think of it as him indefinitely sitting out while he was a ufa. Instead of paying Hyman 5M+, he was replaced for free with Bunting at 950K. Bunting was let go for free and was replaced by Bertuzzi for free. You know when you lose guys to free agency, you can sign others in their place potentially, right?

Maybe you just want Nylander to be one of your ex-Leafs so that you can finally be a fan of his and talk about how management let him go for free?

You lose chemistry, camaraderie, and team spirit when you replace guys every year at free agency. And what do you think it's going to happen if Nylander signs for 11 million? Every year Leafs will have to go bargain bin hunting to replace guys around the core four.

A team is not just four players. Until Leafs management figure that out they won't win anything in spring.

It was ludicrous to let Hyman, McCann, Marchment, etc go as it was obvious that they had talent that the Leafs needed. Kadri and Bunting wore out their welcome with their antics although I really liked them as Leaf forwards. Brown was a Cap casuality due to the bizarre Zaitsev massive contract.

Sandin has talent but was getting knocked around a bit and would make some brain dead plays. He made a few against Arizona last game and it flashed me back to some of the plays he would do on the Leafs right after he did an earlier brilliant play. Trading him and getting RW Cowan who is absolutely tearing it up in the OHL is a decent trade off as Cowan should be ready to step in when Jarnkrok's contract is up...which is what you are hoping to see done with some of the current Leaf's assets...

Not interested

I agree with what you said except that Duabs (or maybe Shanahan behind the scenes) low balled Hyman. It was being rumoured before July 1st that he was looking for around $35 - 40 million on the next contract. I expect that he would have signed for $4.5 - $5 MIL x 7 years to stay. His last 2 years in Toronto he was scoring a pro-rated 34 and almost 30 goals and was still getting better.

Not only does Hyman puck pursue amoung the best in the league, he also had the hockey IQ to play with Matthews and Marner....and now with McDavid and Draisatl which a lot players don't have with their natural ability.

OK, by that logic, it's just the Rangers, Bruins have the only chance of being Cup Finalists from the East.

And that logic is sound.

Last year Florida got lucky that Boston slipped up and handed the momentum to them after going 3-1 in that series. I don't think Florida can repeat their magical run from last year.

Tampa is no longer the team that went to three straight finals. Their roster got weaker, they got rid of guys like Killorn, Palat, Colton, McDonagh. Their depth has suffered. And Vasi was leaking goals against the Leafs last year.

Carolina and Jersey are also not serious cup contenders. Carolina has the best chance outside of Boston and New York but they lack the goaltending and don't produce enough offense.

New York and Boston are the most complete teams and they have the best goaltending in the East.

The Leafs don't even belong in the conversation.