Broberg is gone

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Created by: Andy_Dick

Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 30, 2023

Published: Dec. 8, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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https://oilersnation.com/news/edmonton-oilers-notebook-team-willing-to-move-a-number-of-assets-in-hunt-for-goaltender-as-scouts-attend-canadiens-blue-jackets-game

Who's the target?

They are dollar in and dollar out. Broberg was a bad pick at the time and had a low ceiling. He's made a lot of mistakes in his own end and the Oilers already have the Nurse/Ceci headches so it's best to move on and get something that can actually help up front or the back end. Broberg is simply another soft player that doesnt fit.
Struble and Boqvist are insurance. Both were high picks with potential. Boqvist needs a lot of work defensively. Struble is a tough 3rd pair D that doesnt have a lot of size but a ton of grit which this team lacks. Bourgault simply doesnt have a high ceiling to warrant sitting on your hands in a short window.
Wahlstrom can play now on your wings when Broberg has no role. You are getting some picks at play with that can be flipped at the TDL and you get precious cap space. That space/picks can be used to go after the big prize at the TDL of Ferraro

Trades

EDM

Boqvist, Adam

CBJ

Foegele, Warren

EDM

MTL

Bourgault, Xavier

EDM

Wahlstrom, Oliver
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Broberg, Philip

EDM

Barabanov, Alexander ($1,250,000 retained)
Ferraro, Mario

SJS

Ceci, Cody
2024 1st round pick (EDM)
2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 2nd round pick (NYI)

EDM

Evans, Jake
2024 4th round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Cheaper and Friends with McDavid. We all know Connor runs the team now with his former agent running the show. I love McLeod. Has everything you want in a 3rd line center but with an ALL window. They cant wait on a guy who was searching for his 1st goal of the year til a week ago

MTL

McLeod, Ryan

Additional Details:

They want size down the middle. McLeod has a few inches and 20 pounds on Evans.

Buyouts

James Neal: $1,916,667

Buried

Jack Campbell: $3,850,000 ($5,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$81,718,292	$850,000	$3,282,500	$1,781,708

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 6	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Hyman, Zach $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Kane, Evander $5,125,000$5,125,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 3	Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Barabanov, Alexander $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Janmark, Mattias $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Brown, Connor $775,000$775,000 ($3,225,000$3M) RW, LW UFA - 1
Ryan, Derek $900,000$900,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Hamblin, James $807,500$807,500 RW, C RFA - 1	Gagner, Sam $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Ekholm, Mattias $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Skinner, Stuart $2,600,000$2,600,000 G UFA - 3
Nurse, Darnell $9,250,000$9,250,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Bouchard, Evan $3,900,000$3,900,000 RD RFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
Kulak, Brett $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Desharnais, Vincent $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Wahlstrom, Oliver $874,125$874,125 RW RFA - 1		Holloway, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($650,000$650K) LW, C RFA - 1
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2		Boqvist, Adam $2,600,000$2,600,000 RD RFA - 2

Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.

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Smash

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

AStovetop

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i think that's a bit much for Ferraro and barabanov but not by a lot. Maybe a 3rd instead of the other 2nd, and the Sharks may give that 3rd to a third party team to take care of the retention so they can keep that last slot open at the deadline

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.

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Quoting: AStovetop

Holland has to overbid at this point and I don’t think he’s running the show rn. McDavid and friends will tell him what to do! Connor doesn’t care about the difference between a 2nd and 3rd neither should Oilers fans. Go all in next 3 years otherwise Draisaitl and McDavid could leave which is far worse than losing any lottery ticket

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.

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I don’t see a purpose in either Montreal trade as they don’t move any needles. Trade away arguably our best prospect as of rn (which ik isn’t saying much but still) plus our third line centre we’ve spent years developing. I just don’t think it’s worth shipping out the entirety of our remaining youth for a mid third line centre and a backup we don’t really need. Also the Foegle for boqvist makes no sense in this you have boqvist scratched so why trade one of our best bottom 6 players for a healthy scratch at the same caphit? Overall doesn’t seem like the best use of assets.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.

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Edited Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.

Quoting: RyanMclovin

Bourgault isn’t much of a prospect. I’m not even close to the biggest Boqvist fan. Any player that can’t make an nhl lineup 5 years after being drafted with term and an above average salary should be a negative asset but that goes for Foegele as well as there are cheaper options out there. Now it’s easily passed through waivers, doubtful with Foegele. That gives you flexibility in a hard cap as you can’t trade Foegele at a positive value rn. McLeod is of course better than Evans that is why the cap savings and pick split the difference. Stop worrying about sacrificing bottom 6 talent to improve the team. Evans does everything McLeod does at a cheaper price and keeps McDavid happy 😃
These moves are simply moves you wouldn’t make but that doesn’t mean they are futile when the team saves cap which should be their end game to have the flexibility to continually add guys at the every TDL like Ferraro and Barabanov. No cap savings and no legit difference makers like those two

Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.

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Lmao Broberg isnt getting a 2nd alone

Edmonton needs to add if theyre trading for Wahlstrom, not a lot but probbaly a 4th or 5th. One is an NHLer, the other isnt

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.

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If Broberg is such a mistake and Wahlstrom can immediately help you, why are they adding a 2nd?

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.

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Why are the Islanders adding a 2nd?

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.

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Not opposed because I think the Jackets young core could benefit from having Foegele in the mix, but FYI Boqvist is out for a month with a strained shoulder

Dec. 8, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.

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Quoting: squashmaple

Not opposed because I think the Jackets young core could benefit from having Foegele in the mix, but FYI Boqvist is out for a month with a strained shoulder

If we were trading Boqvist, i doubt it would be for a rental winger

Dec. 8, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.

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Quoting: AStovetop

Yea this is a strong overpayment for them!
But to be fair, a reasonable return value for them would be too little to justify moving them! Rather have both with the way they are playing and what they mean to this team. But a return like this makes me want to say goodbye.

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Dec. 8, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

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Boqvist blows. Foegeles game is trending up right now. I wouldn’t move him.

Same for Mcleod. Mcleod I would consider untouchable. This is the year he breaks out.

The Broberg Wahlstrom swap is fine. A good trade for both teams. But it should be 1 for 1, no picks needed.

If Ferraro is LD, he makes little sense for the Oilers. Oilers need a RD upgrade on Ceci not another LD which were loaded with.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.

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Your evaluation of Bourgeault and Mcleod is too low, and too high on Broberg. compared too mine at least.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 3:39 p.m.

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no chance the isles add anything.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Hockeypal

Why are the Islanders adding a 2nd?

Quoting: Nightowl26

no chance the isles add anything.

Wahlstrom is not even in the lineup what the hell are you isles fans on?
He’s been in the league longer than Broberg and hasn’t been a regular which is the same reason Boqvist value is in the toilet.
Broberg has a higher pedigree than both, given little chance at the pro level while being is a big defenceman that can skate which always is a big plus to a GM.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Your evaluation of Bourgeault and Mcleod is too low, and too high on Broberg. compared too mine at least.

The whole idea for the trades is the bigger picture. The cap space is the asset which creates room for the Sharks players. Pretty disappointing that you couldn’t see it as your one of the few that I can actually read w/o losing brain cells.

Dec. 8, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.

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Quoting: BoomerTheHero

If we were trading Boqvist, i doubt it would be for a rental winger

Not one team takes that player at his salary and term. Put him on waivers and he passes through. You Jackets fans, you rate your players so high that can’t even enter the lineup on an awful team no less. If he ain’t good enough for the Jackets and he makes 2.6M for 2 years. He ain’t making any other lineup including this one! The Oilers rather just ditch the salary. The whole point would be to roll the dice and put him on waivers eventually🙃 if he ever gets healthy which hasn’t been the case throughout his career

Dec. 9, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.

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Quoting: Andy_Dick

Making cap space doesn't means young players need to be sold for cheap. I just wanted to point out that IMO Bourgault could fetch a bigger return as a thriving top 6 foward and Mcleod too since his still developping and already one of the best faceoffs guy in the NHL.

A fan from another team arguing you undervalue your players doesn't happen often around here. Take it as a compliment

Dec. 16, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.

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Quoting: jpsnow13

I hope so as I complimented you!

Jayden Struble has been unbelievable. You see now why he won every competition at the combine in his draft year. He's muscles everyone off pucks. 85% goal share tonight. Calm and poised with the puck. Excellent pinches. His offence in College is translating.

I dont even trade Struble for Bourgault at this point. Bourgault has proven nothing in the league. Struble is one of those players that is a better player in the NHL than the AHL with more structure in the big leagues.

I was big Struble fan as my description said but he's been even better than what I expected. He will not come out of the lineup at this rate.

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