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Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2023
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  1. Meyers, Ben
  2. 2026 2nd round pick (COL)
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Clearly he has value. More than that? I’d be surprised
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MTL
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
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I don’t know if he has that much value. But the Habs likes him and think highly of him. So if a team wants him that’s gonna be the minimum
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    I tough that he had value at some point, but I can’t see it now. He’s just not good enough for money he’s getting. Cap dump or someone who stays until someone better comes
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      The two obvious cap dump. Once again I tough that Anderson had value last year, but it’s a different story now. Good player but he doesn’t score. For 5,5 millions he’s not worth anything
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      No reason to explain the gally situation
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      1. 2025 5th round pick (VAN)
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      He’s okay I guess. Not much value here
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      1. 2024 6th round pick (NYI)
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      Not much value if any
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      1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
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      I think he’ll fit in nicely. It won’t happen don’t get me wrong.
      I think that would be the value to let him go. Not gonna happen tho
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      MTL
      1. Garland, Conor
      2. Räty, Aatu
      3. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
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      Once again won’t happen. Just an idea of what I would want to let him go. I like him a lot (bias habs fan)
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      MTL
        They have no value. Maybe Jake Allen have some but I’ll be the first person to be flabbergasted
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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        Allen : somes small value (at 50%)

        Armia : cap dump value

        Dvorack : cap dump value

        Monahan : 2nd best centerman available for trade at the TDL, have a great value (1st round pick)

        Savard : have a good value, but I don't see him being traded

        Evans : low pick value

        Pearson : low pick value

        Kovy : also low pick value, but can really have a mid-round pick value

        Gallagher and Anderson : both are cap dump, but both of them should not be cap-dumped somewhere else.

        Matheson : have a great value (way more than only a 1st)
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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        if the rumours were actually true that hughes turned down a first for anderson, then hes a terrible gm
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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        Quoting: Herb_Brooks
        if the rumours were actually true that hughes turned down a first for anderson, then hes a terrible gm


        I think it would be a huge mistake if it’s true…
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
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        Quoting: ht42
        Allen : somes small value (at 50%)

        Armia : cap dump value

        Dvorack : cap dump value

        Monahan : 2nd best centerman available for trade at the TDL, have a great value (1st round pick)

        Savard : have a good value, but I don't see him being traded

        Evans : low pick value

        Pearson : low pick value

        Kovy : also low pick value, but can really have a mid-round pick value

        Gallagher and Anderson : both are cap dump, but both of them should not be cap-dumped somewhere else.

        Matheson : have a great value (way more than only a 1st)

        We agree on a lot of the value of players
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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        Canucks will never trade for Matheson after what he did to Petey, like I'm not being emotional but you can genuinely tell Petey doesn't like him, and I'd much rather not alienate out franchise #1 center. Although I'd be quite open to a kovacevic trade I think he'd slot in well on that 3rd pairing, alongside either Cole, Soucy, or Zadorov.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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        Quoting: Minimont
        We agree on a lot of the value of players


        Personally, if we are able to search in total of one or two low 1st round picks, I hope we can use one of them to trade Armia and Dvorack with that pick as a cap dump........

        But I belive that the players who will gonna be send away at the TDL are : Monahan, and a BIG maybe for Allen, Evans and Kovy.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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        Quoting: Canuckfan98
        Canucks will never trade for Matheson after what he did to Petey, like I'm not being emotional but you can genuinely tell Petey doesn't like him, and I'd much rather not alienate out franchise #1 center. Although I'd be quite open to a kovacevic trade I think he'd slot in well on that 3rd pairing, alongside either Cole, Soucy, or Zadorov.


        It's just a demonstration about the value, not about the trade themself.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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        Edited Dec. 15, 2023 at 2:14 p.m.
        Quoting: Canuckfan98
        Canucks will never trade for Matheson after what he did to Petey, like I'm not being emotional but you can genuinely tell Petey doesn't like him, and I'd much rather not alienate out franchise #1 center. Although I'd be quite open to a kovacevic trade I think he'd slot in well on that 3rd pairing, alongside either Cole, Soucy, or Zadorov.


        It’s not exactly a mock trade. It’s more of what I would expect
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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        Quoting: ht42
        Personally, if we are able to search in total of one or two low 1st round picks, I hope we can use one of them to trade Armia and Dvorack with that pick as a cap dump........

        But I belive that the players who will gonna be send away at the TDL are : Monahan, and a BIG maybe for Allen, Evans and Kovy.


        I think the exact same
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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        Quoting: ht42
        It's just a demonstration about the value, not about the trade themself.


        Okay that makes a lot more sense, I thought he was talking about potential trade ideas, although value wise I think Matheson could probably fetch more than a late first, average prospect, and a player who is good but is overpaid.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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        Quoting: Minimont
        It’s an exactly a mock trade. It’s more of what I would expect


        In that case I'd think you could get more especially from a team that needs a top 4 LHD.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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        We all know how good Monahan is when he is playing, the only problem is injury concerns. No team gonna be happy spending a 1rst on a guy who could injure himself an be out for the playoffs.

        I think he is worth a conditional 2nd with possibility of it being a 1rst if he play 70% of the games in the playoffs.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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        Quoting: Canuckfan98
        In that case I'd think you could get more especially from a team that needs a top 4 LHD.


        The problem is more about money nowadays.
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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        Leafs won’t be doing that and you realize there’s a 1% chance the leafs and Canadians complete a trade right?
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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        Quoting: SomeonesOffended
        Leafs won’t be doing that and you realize there’s a 1% chance the leafs and Canadians complete a trade right?


        Read the caption of the trade buddy pal
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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        I agreed with most of this but in the end the forwards aren't going anywhere. Sell off Monahan but Gallagher, Andy and Dvorak are here to stay.

        There's a log jam on defense for prospects and they need to prioritize selling those assets first and next season try to sell of Dvorak AND then when Gallagher and Andy are in their last years sell them off.

        At no point should the Habs be giving up assets to dump forwards though. They have the roster spots, cap space and depth positions to drag those contracts till their end without buying them out or giving up assets to move them.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.
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        Quoting: Subbanator7667
        I agreed with most of this but in the end the forwards aren't going anywhere. Sell off Monahan but Gallagher, Andy and Dvorak are here to stay.

        There's a log jam on defense for prospects and they need to prioritize selling those assets first and next season try to sell of Dvorak AND then when Gallagher and Andy are in their last years sell them off.

        At no point should the Habs be giving up assets to dump forwards though. They have the roster spots, cap space and depth positions to drag those contracts till their end without buying them out or giving up assets to move them.


        I agree with you. The objective was to show who has value that are likely to be traded and who isn’t likely to be traded because of bad value
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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        You know you have to pay to dump both Anderson and Gallagher, right?
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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        Quoting: GeneralLandro
        You know you have to pay to dump both Anderson and Gallagher, right?


        Yes he knows that I believe after reading previous comments and the description text next about the players respective value 🙂
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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        Avs say ayi, chan eil, ora, aniyo!
        Dec. 14, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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        I like both trades for the Canucks. I don't think what happened to Pettersson would stop this trade. Lot's of teams have trade for players with way more history. This barely a blip.

        Kov trade we take and run.

        You guys are absolutely out to lunch on Savard's value.

        Monahan is tricky, I think he goes for less. His injury history will just depress his value so badly, but certainly could go for that much because he is good.
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        Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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        Quoting: SGB88
        I like both trades for the Canucks. I don't think what happened to Pettersson would stop this trade. Lot's of teams have trade for players with way more history. This barely a blip.

        Kov trade we take and run.

        You guys are absolutely out to lunch on Savard's value.

        Monahan is tricky, I think he goes for less. His injury history will just depress his value so badly, but certainly could go for that much because he is good.


        Oh don’t get me wrong. I don’t think we’ll have a first for Savard. I think it’s going to take a first to get him out of Montreal
        Dec. 15, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.
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        Oh don’t get me wrong. I don’t think we’ll have a first for Savard. I think it’s going to take a first to get him out of Montreal


        Ah, fair enough, sorry I misunderstood you, I should have read more closely since you were clear. I've seen a lot of Savard trade proposals for him that seem very high. Even a 2nd would seem pretty high for him, IMO, especially this year, with a year left on his term. I would have said a 3rd next year at the deadline if you asked me to guess his value.

        But if you wouldn't want to trade him for less than a 1st that's 100% legit since that is how you value him vs how you want others to value him.
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        Dec. 15, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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        Ah, fair enough, sorry I misunderstood you, I should have read more closely since you were clear. I've seen a lot of Savard trade proposals for him that seem very high. Even a 2nd would seem pretty high for him, IMO, especially this year, with a year left on his term. I would have said a 3rd next year at the deadline if you asked me to guess his value.

        But if you wouldn't want to trade him for less than a 1st that's 100% legit since that is how you value him vs how you want others to value him.


        He’s solid. He works hard and he’s a mentor for the youngster so that’s why I don’t think he’s gonna be traded. But, if I team wants him it’s a first. No worries for the previous comments, I don’t mind
         
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