Stop trolling Leafs Fans on Christmas

tell your Toronto fans to stop trolling the board on Christmas Day!

There are maybe 3 actual leaf fans who post stuff on here. The one you are referencing isn't a leaf fan. The truly dreadful Marner trade should have clued you in. This response is ridiculous. Think a bad contract and a 3rd line center is worth a top 6 power forward under 22 is literally just silly.

All I see are Habs fans throwing their garbage and expecting a guy as good as Knies

Player A: 7 goals, 12 EV points, 29 games, 6'2", good defensively 20 years old

Player B: 8 goals, 14 EV points, 33 games, 5'8", horrendous defensively, 22 years old

Guess who is who

Since you're not playing NHL are you garbage?! Savard is one of the top blockers in the league and Monahan is a real leader ... still wanna lose in the first round I see?!!!

Difference is, I'm not making 4 million dollars a year... I would like to improve our chances and Knies' a big part of that, especially on a ELC and especially for 2 average guys making too much

so for making 4 million anyone can become garbage? That's Leafs fandom thoughts are so on top of the world LOL. The kid won't give you a cup while those average guys got the extra mile to do so!

I love the fans who say this stuff while cheering for a lottery team. Savard and Monahan are so good they help Montreal not make the playoffs.

You made so many mistake in one post. First, Knies is 21. Then, Caufield us one of the best habs defensively according to analytics. Caufield is also 100x better on powerplay. He is also visibly injured

Player A
21 years old, 13 pts in 29 games (playing with the all time best goal scorer and 100 pts selke candidate winger), labelled as a top 3 lock for Calder by his fans, 6’2, horrible on pp but decent defensively

Player B
19 years old, 12 pts in 33 games (playing with a sniper who doesn’t shoot and a 70 pts C), labelled as a bust by a lot of fans, 6’3, not really good on pp but better than Player A, decent defensively

Player C
22 years old, 13 pts in 23 games, labelled as a middle six winger with limited future, 5’11, good on pp, decent defensively

Player D
23 years old, 15 pts in 33 games. Labelled as a bust. Awful on pp, good defensively. 5’9

Player E
21 years old, 16 pts in 33 games (playing with 2 young guys). Labelled as a definite bust and one of the worst draft pick of all time. 6’1. Bad on pp (doesn’t even get time) but ok defensively

Realistically, none of us believe Leafs and Habs will be trading partners anytime soon so any post on this site referencing one is most likely trolling rival fans. Fine by me, I love it but referencing points %, Leafs are in 9th league wide and Habs 22nd. Not sure we’re the ones that need help 🧐

My bad... Bc making 1 mill against the cap is the same as making 4... Great logic

assessing a false claim is not logic at all, perhaps you need to return to school and learn from that!

You direly need help to pass more than 2 rounds of playoffs tho

You're comparing Knies to Slaf 😂... And Caufield isn't playing hurt... And Slaf isn't better defensively...

You also spent more on Newhook than the package here is for Knies 😂... Then signed him to a more expensive contract... And is 3 years older... While being worse defensively...

And who is player D and E, the closest I have are Ylonen and RHP... And both of them don't fit age wise or height wise...

But you do notice how Knies is the second youngest with the other being a 1 OA pick...

And don't ever compare anyone with Slaf to prove your point with me again... Such a soft spot for the kid...

You need to go back to school to learn asset management and the meaning of it...

For example, Noah Gregor at 775K is better value than Gregor at 3.5 million

Same logic being applied in my statement...

Slaf is better defensively for sure. Caufield is definitely hurt

We paid a first and a second for Newhook. Monahan is easily worth a first and Savard retained 2 second. So it’s a second more. Newhook is far better offensively and not far behind defensively. He is also way better on pp.

Player D is Hoglander and player E is last year Lafrenière after 33 games

Lafrenière is also younger than Knies. And both Slaf and Laf are being called bust and worst 1 OA pick ever. Knies is consider a wonder kid by leafs fans

Knies is nothing special. I would take Poitras, Holtz, Raymond, Jarvis, Mercer, etc.

Slaf is already way better than Knies

Slaf isn't... And if Caufield was hurt, he wouldn't be playing...

Monahan isn't worth first... And Savard isn't worth a second... Especially without retention and Knies is younger than Newhook...

Makes more sense... But still... Both are multiple years older than Knies and Knies is near them or surpassed them in PPG already...

Poitras and Raymond, understand... But Holtz is laughable, Jarvis is a 40 point guy the past 2 years... And is older and Mercer got demoted to the 3rd line...

And Knies is better than Slaf in every way rn... Despite getting half the opportunity

We can debate that but I agree Leafs (like most playoff bound teams) have flaws that need addressing to improve chances for playoff success. I’m sure Tre will do that but if I were him, trading for Monahan is possibility but would need retention and I wouldn’t offer more than a 3rd (injury history) so doubtful we’d land him. I wouldn’t go near Savard - he’s washed and we need top 4 help. Don’t see a fit with les Habitants and frankly speaking I wouldn’t trade within division if I were Tre

Slaf is, watch a bit of him and look at stats. Funny how since he is on the first line, Caufield and Suzuki have Selke caliber stats… It was also confirmed Caufield played a lot last season with an injury. Players do that all the time. Look at Price

Monahan is definitely worth a first. Way worse players have gotten first recently (Bertuzzi, Copp, Barbashev)

Savard is easily worth a second without retention and 2 with retention

Laf was the same age as Knies… and Knies hasn’t surpassed them in ppg.

Holtz has more pts on the fourth line than Knies on the first line. He is easily better. Jarvis is also way better. Mercer beats Knies offensively and defensively

What do you mean Knies doesn’t get the opportunity. He is litterally playing with a 100 pts winger and the best goal scorer of all time and he isn’t producing a lot

Knies has played 32 games in the nhl but you are comparing him to guys with much longer track record. Remember Slaf after 32 games - the term bust was used pretty widely; in fact I think he had been demoted to ahl for the entire season by then.
Not sure why Knies playing with such great players is held against him 🤷🏻 - it’s an indication of his ability. He’s clearly holding his own or coaching staff would demote him and imo he’s producing at a reasonable rate for a true rookie.

Well at least the Leafs consistently make the playoffs. Big overpay for the for two non difference makers by the Leafs.

I compared Knies to other players with long record because he did so with him. Just to prove his own logic is flawed

The fact he is having worst stats than Bunting while playing with those 2 superstars is why it’s held against him. It’s not normal to have a line like this :
60 goals scorer
100 pts winger
35 pts winger

Even if you putted Samsonov with Marner and Matthews, he would still have a decent amount of pts

Maybe you don’t watch the Leafs much - no harm, I never watch teams unless / until they play the Leafs - but Knies has only played with Matthews & Marner for portion of games. He’s played on Domi & Tavares line as well. I get that you want to dump on Leafs - I’d be dumping on Habs if they were playoff team but - without speaking on behalf of Leafs Nation, Knies is legit. Size, speed, good shot, good hands, compete - he’s a keeper.

Yeah, this trade is absolutely nonsense for the Leafs. They should definitely keep Knies as he will be a perfect second liner with Minten and Cowan. I was just responding to the other guy (same guy who said Knies was a lock for Calder and that Woll was a better prospect than Wallsteadt so I don’t really know why I discuss with him) saying Knies > Caufield.

I kinda like Knies. He has a similar style of play than me when I was playing, except he is a forward and I was a D. He doesn’t have a truly Elite trait, but everything is good in him. He doesn’t have any weakness, except not having any real strength. He is like the perfect versatile player that you will want in playoffs, kinda like Anderson, but without the disadvantages of Anderson. I just find it silly to say he is better than guys like Caufield, Boldy, Hischier or Thompson (I have heard all of those things). I think he will be a less fast, more physical Newhook or maybe a bit better Nichuskin. So great player that you absolutely want on your roster, but not a big star or a ppg player. I think his ceilling is around 70 pts/season, and his floor 40 pts/season.