Marner Trade

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Created by: Rajvinder

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 26, 2023

Published: Dec. 26, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Based on the feedback of Palhal and a few other like OldNYIFan on past Marner deals.

Trades

TOR

Kempe, Adrian

LAK

Marner, Mitchell ($5,450,150 retained)

Additional Details:

Marner isn't really any better than Kemper (per others). So they Leafs need to retain to dump him and get anything back in return.

Retained Salary Transactions

Mitchell Marner: $5,450,150 (49.99%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$81,903,600	$0	$0	$1,596,400

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Kempe, Adrian $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 3
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2	Jones, Martin $875,000$875,000 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3	Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Dec. 26, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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I don't anyone that used that logic. "Marner isn't really any better than Kemper (per others). So they Leafs need to retain to dump him and get anything back in return".
But I'm sure you'll use any logic to fit your argument.

Dec. 26, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.

athrin

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Marner is better but kings will be able to get 2.5 Kempes when marners next contract kicks in, Kings would decline

Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.

tryger

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The Kings will be spending a combined $12.5M between Kopitar and Kempe for the next two seasons on the top line, which will allow them to pay for a good goaltender or bolster depth scoring. Not sure LA and Toronto are as good of trade partners as they were a few years ago.

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Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.

jaok3

Marner rocks

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Edited Dec. 27, 2023 at 7:11 a.m.

Marner has had 2 season with more assists than Kempe best total point yr. Kempe has only once had more goals in a season. Marner's best season is 32 points more than Kempe's. They aren't in the same solar system when it comes down to it.

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Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

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Once again, you've mis-represented our position so egregiously that I doubt it's unintentional. What @palhal and I and many others have said is that one season plus of Marner isn't worth two seasons plus of Kempe, especially when you factor in the indisputable fact that it will be easier for the Kings to re-sign Kempe than it will be to re-sign Marner, for both numerical and affiliational reasons.

But thanks for the shout-out.

Quoting: jaok3

Marner is 3 yrs younger.

What are you talking about?!? Marner is 8 months younger.

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Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.

Luguber

Joined: Jun. 2022

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Quoting: jaok3

Marner has had 2 season with more assists than Kempe best total point yr. Kempe has only once had more goals in a season. Marner's best season is 32 points more than Kempe's. Marner is 3 yrs younger. They aren't in the same solar system when it comes down to it.

Yes there is 3 years difference between september of 1996 and may of 1997.

And to say they aren't in the same solar system is a stretch.

Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: jaok3

I would have to go back on the original trade but it was just Kempe for Marner. It was Kempe, Brandt and I believe so other player for Marner. That was more than outrageous.

Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:35 p.m.

MitchMafia

Joined: Jun. 2023

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Marner has a full NTC so maybe posting these constant Marner trades is simply an exercise in futility

Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:51 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: MitchMafia

Marner has a full NTC so maybe posting these constant Marner trades is simply an exercise in futility

Which one is the Don, Bonnie or Paul?

Dec. 26, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

#10

MitchMafia

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

Which one is the Don, Bonnie or Paul?

#rentfree

Dec. 26, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.

#11

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: MitchMafia

#rentfree

It was a joke... 🙄

Dec. 27, 2023 at 7:07 a.m.

#12

jaok3

Marner rocks

Joined: Jun. 2021

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Once again, you've mis-represented our position so egregiously that I doubt it's unintentional. What palhal and I and many others have said is that one season plus of Marner isn't worth two seasons plus of Kempe, especially when you factor in the indisputable fact that it will be easier for the Kings to re-sign Kempe than it will be to re-sign Marner, for both numerical and affiliational reasons.

But thanks for the shout-out.

What are you talking about?!? Marner is 8 months younger.

My bad thought he was born in 94.

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