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Created by: Missouri
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 29, 2023
Published: Dec. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Johansen, Ryan
  2. Olausson, Oskar
  3. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
  4. 2026 2nd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($2,500,000 retained)
2.
OTT
  1. 2024 6th round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
Conservative buyers for Yotes.
3.
OTT
  1. Smith, Ty
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$82,080,713$0$1,850,000$1,419,287
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$838,333$838,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1

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Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
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Avs decline. Tarasenko isn't a C.
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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I think Tarasenko just gets a late 1st. Brannstrom gets more. Smith is worthless
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Avs decline. Tarasenko isn't a C.


That is highway robbery for Tarasenko anyhow.
Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
That is highway robbery for Tarasenko anyhow.


There's that too!
Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
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That is highway robbery for Tarasenko anyhow.


Johansen at this point is probably a cap dump too
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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1. Colorado declines

2. Arizona accepts.

3. Pittsburgh accepts.
Dec. 29, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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Johansen at this point is probably a cap dump too


He’s not a cap dump but he doesn’t have a lot of value he is just a really poor fit stylistically for the Avs because of his mediocre at best skating.
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Dec. 29, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Avs decline. Tarasenko isn't a C.


Who said anything about a C?? Colorado has been linked to some wingers as well. Yes they need a C but they are reportedly looking to go all in this year. They’ve been rumoured to be going after Guentzel. So I figured if they don’t get him Tarasenko is another option who is also cheaper.


Quoting: csick
I think Tarasenko just gets a late 1st. Brannstrom gets more. Smith is worthless


Brannstrom I honestly wasn’t sure on his value. Smith is worthless, he’s just a throw in for roster spot.

Quoting: NMAvsFan
That is highway robbery for Tarasenko anyhow.


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There's that too!


Quoting: csick
Johansen at this point is probably a cap dump too


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He’s not a cap dump but he doesn’t have a lot of value he is just a really poor fit stylistically for the Avs because of his mediocre at best skating.


Johansen is viewed as a cap dump in this deal. 1st + prospect to get $4 million off the books for the next 2 years. And a 2nd rd pick for Tarasenko is how I broke it down. Some can argue Tarasenko should be worth more or less. The debate on Johansen being a cap dump or not is also something to consider. Some say he is, some say he isn’t. There is no right or wrong answer here. All of this is a consideration.

Thank you guys for the discussion! Have a Happy New Year!
Dec. 29, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Missouri
Who said anything about a C?? Colorado has been linked to some wingers as well. Yes they need a C but they are reportedly looking to go all in this year. They’ve been rumoured to be going after Guentzel. So I figured if they don’t get him Tarasenko is another option who is also cheaper.

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Brannstrom I honestly wasn’t sure on his value. Smith is worthless, he’s just a throw in for roster spot.









Johansen is viewed as a cap dump in this deal. 1st + prospect to get $4 million off the books for the next 2 years. And a 2nd rd pick for Tarasenko is how I broke it down. Some can argue Tarasenko should be worth more or less. The debate on Johansen being a cap dump or not is also something to consider. Some say he is, some say he isn’t. There is no right or wrong answer here. All of this is a consideration.

Thank you guys for the discussion! Have a Happy New Year!


Avs need help at C. I've not really seen the Avs linked to any wingers, they just traded one out for starters. Johansen is a stylistically bad fit that was a bit of a gamble for the Avs. It didn't really pay off. He isn't, however, the pure cap dump some like to make him out to be. The Avs certainly aren't going to pay that to 'dump' him. Tarasenko isn't a guy you go for (nor Guentzel) when you absolutely NEED help at C
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Dec. 30, 2023 at 1:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Missouri
Who said anything about a C?? Colorado has been linked to some wingers as well. Yes they need a C but they are reportedly looking to go all in this year. They’ve been rumoured to be going after Guentzel. So I figured if they don’t get him Tarasenko is another option who is also cheaper.




Brannstrom I honestly wasn’t sure on his value. Smith is worthless, he’s just a throw in for roster spot.









Johansen is viewed as a cap dump in this deal. 1st + prospect to get $4 million off the books for the next 2 years. And a 2nd rd pick for Tarasenko is how I broke it down. Some can argue Tarasenko should be worth more or less. The debate on Johansen being a cap dump or not is also something to consider. Some say he is, some say he isn’t. There is no right or wrong answer here. All of this is a consideration.

Thank you guys for the discussion! Have a Happy New Year!


That’s some imaginative math, first off it doesn’t get $4M in cap off this year, it gets $2.3M for this year off because all contracts are prorated, second when is a dude who is on pace for 25 goals a cap dump Tarasenko is on pace for 17-20. I’ll give you RyJo’s perceived value isn’t high but damn a team like CHI would take him for future considerations, and the Avs have traded exactly 1 1st rd pick under the current regime not a chance in hell they do this trade.
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Dec. 30, 2023 at 7:46 p.m.
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Quoting: TJTwolf
Avs need help at C. I've not really seen the Avs linked to any wingers, they just traded one out for starters. Johansen is a stylistically bad fit that was a bit of a gamble for the Avs. It didn't really pay off. He isn't, however, the pure cap dump some like to make him out to be. The Avs certainly aren't going to pay that to 'dump' him. Tarasenko isn't a guy you go for (nor Guentzel) when you absolutely NEED help at C


I understand that for sure. I’m more saying go for Tarasenko over Guentzel as a winger. Chris Johnston was just discussing the avs potential to go for a winger as well. So that’s why I made this.
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