Roy, Dvorak, top 3 protected 2024 first, 2025 first, Calgary 2025 first and Engstrom for Tkatchuk

No. Tkachuk will need an A level young player or prospect in the deal

A top 10 pick and a A- prospect ain’t enough?

3rd round pick for Theo Wallberg

I still preach patience. Sell Senko, Kubalik, Brann for something. Trade Forsberg in the off season for extra cap space. Sign some depth.

This team will have no issues scoring. They just need to learn something about how not to be stupid.

That would be a HAUL for a guy who isn’t an elite offensive weapon, underwhelming defensively, and has a fairly large contract.

Heck of a lot more than the meier deal which would be the comp I would use for B Tkachuk

Brady is better than Meier. Brady also has term left . Brady is a unicorn power forward who cannot be moved in front of the net. A lot of teams would kill for Brady.

Meier is a brutal comparison. Meier didn’t get an A level piece because he needed a new contract

What is Brady better at than Meier at the time of his trade?

He’s not better at scoring
He’s not better defensively
He’s not a better playmaker

A lot of teams were killing for Meier.

Meier retained had 1 year at 3 mill.

To match Brady’s deal he’d have needed an extension of 9.5x4. That’s an easy deal to get him to sign in order to match money. So the contract is irrelevant.

Brady Tkachuk is BAD defensively. He’s not a game changer offensively.

He throws a lot of hits and is a goon but hasn’t shown that translating into wins ever.

Matthew is that guy. Brady isn’t

Disagree . Brady is a unicorn . He’s the missing pieces next to Aho, next to Matthews , next to a ton of players. Every team will want him. He’s a unique player.

So the same as Meier was? Meier was also a unicorn.

But a better scorer and much much better 2 way player.

If a guy has to be the 2nd best player on whatever line you stick him in to be successful, you aren’t giving up 8 mill AAV+ a billion 1sts to get him

Brady is still a 35+ goal and 80+ pts and his style of play is missing on most teams . He’s the guy teams are going to be looking for to score playoff goals off rebounds and the dirty goals which is what happens the most in the playoffs . 8 mill dollars for an 80pt player with a salary cap of 90 mill is gonna be ridiculously cheap

So again like Meier? But less of a play driver, a worse scorer, and worse defensively?

I'd make an offer on behalf of Colorado for Greig, but I don't think it would make sense unless the Sens moved other pieces beforehand.

What about Chabot to Winnipeg? Take back Schmidt for cap purposes and get some futures. Schmidt comes off the books when Chychrun is due his raise. Idk, just a random thought.

Oh yeah Meier is showing how good he is since he joined jersey lol

Schmidt
Lucius
2024 1st

A) been injured, when healthy he's still been better than Tkachuk
B) irrelevant to his trade value when traded as a comp and in fact only makes a team more wary of trading for a "power forward" and lowers Tkachuk's value further

In the same area as what I was thinking. I'm not too sure how highly the Jets value Lucius. Seems to me he could go in a trade for a guy like Chabot, but I'm not a Jets fan and would need to see what they (minus that one guy) think.

Taking into account that Meier is about as close to a comparable as Tkachuk is going to get, with Meier being able to be retained down to 3mil for half a season and expiring as an RFA (signed to 8 year extension), and Tkachuk unlikely to have salary retained at all with 4 years remaining on his contract (expiring as a UFA), Tkachuk isn’t going to get the insane haul that Sens fans seem to think. He isn’t his brother, is worse offensively and defensively than Meier, with the only way he is better than Meier is that he is a better goon.

The major pieces for Meier were a 1st, a conditional 2nd that could have upgraded to a 1st, and a decent RD prospect. Considering that Tkachuk currently has term, how about the package of Canes 2024 and 2025 first, Heimosalmi, Gunler, and a 5th in whatever year?

The devils had a few more meaningfulish pieces but also had a cap dump.

1st, the same conditions as the devils had on another 2nd/1st, and Morrow for Tkachuk

(Morrow is a better prospect than Shakir but he’d be the guy Ottawa targets imo with their RD needs, and the devils also gave up zetterlund)

Nope sorry. A bunch of late picks and mid prospects doesn’t cut it

Players with term and no clauses have way more value than expiring contracts

RFAs have significant value. Meier overall will make 73.4 mill in NJD over 9 years (8.16 AAV). Tkachuk will have an AAV of 8.2 over 5 years. The money is the same and Meier ended up actually being more term and control.

Realistically Ottawa isn’t moving Tkachuk without an A level piece. He’s an A level player. And they can keep him for 5 years

Keep him then. He struggles defensively and isn’t a game breaker offensively.