Sorry, a not-great prospect and a late fourth in a draft where we have 7 earlier picks aren't enough to acquire your new 3C.

You can have RyJo, but Granlund is not the guy we need

No point for us to throw away Lundy

The problem is that anyone that is "the guy we need" is going to cost way too much and probably be a rental; if the Avs start blowing 1sts and their few remaining good prospects right now for rentals, the window will be closed very soon. RyJo was imperfect solution, Granny is less imperfect as he is a better fit stylistically.

I honestly think Olausson would fit nicely with Anaheim going forward. He still has nice upside imo. I know the AHL stats don't pop, but at least some of that is usage, as the Eagles never give young guys like him pp1 time for some reason.

Not saying you should accept, but just that I think both Lundestrom and Olausson would be in a better position to succeed if they swapped places (again imo).

But why would we need to trade our 3C so you guys could use him as your 3C?

Why do you think Olausson would be a good fit in Anaheim?

Granlund is cooked dont let his ok looking scoring numbers fool you.

I feel like Lundestrom has gotten a bit buried, and that its arguably unlikely he will be presented with enough opportunity to increase his value going forward. They may want to move on and have more of a vet presence as they prep Gaucher for what will likely be a similar role in the future. Could obviously be wrong here, but that's the attempted logic in my brain.

In terms of Olausson being a good fit, I recall that Cronin had some positive things to say about his overall development before he moved on to Anaheim. Obviously he knows the player, which is one aspect. But besides that I see him as a scoring winger who can complement what the Ducks are building in their forward group. He can play both sides and is being developed to play a more complete game than he had when he was drafted.

All that said, I don't think the offer here is good enough, considering that there is no urgency whatsoever to move the guy for Anaheim. But I go back and forth on what the two players are worth and think it could at least be a base.

I would give you Brayden Tracey in a swap for Olausson in a "change of scenery" type trade. It would take a much better pick than a 4th to make up the difference between Olausson's "potential" to be an NHL regular and Lundestrom who *is* an NHL regular.

Tracy is older and will have to pass through waivers soon. That makes it pretty undesirable for Colorado.

What would you say Lundestrom is worth? Seems tough to say he's worth more than like a third, which I think I'm somewhat in line with. That's not to say the Ducks should accept. They need a third round pick about as much as I need an extra toe, but I guess my point is that I don't really feel like I'm low balling.

Try watching a game. He's driving play and is playing extremely well defensively. Sharks would block the Avs number if they get this offer.

A 2C for 3.5 mil for another year is so valuable. Add to that they're getting back a measly 3rd rounder, a cap dump, and the only asset of interest is the only position that SJ doesn't need.

Absolutely horrible for SJ and the fact that Avs fans think this is a bad deal for them is absolutely insanity

Granted on the waivers concern. I'd consider Perreault too from the Ducks perspective as a closer age match but I'd rather keep him myself. I wonder quite a bit what Verbeek thinks of both of these kids that got drafted under Murray and haven't developed as you'd hope.

With Lundestrom the injury makes getting proper value a lot harder. You said he's a bit over shadowed but I'd say that's largely because he hasn't played all season until last week. The Ducks have no real reason to trade him this soon either. Henrique will be gone next year and Gaucher isn't a real threat at a roster spot next year (more like season after next). Zegras is a wing. You put all that together and there isn't any internal competition for Lundestrom at 3C.

Sure, Verbeek could spend 3-4M AAV on a vet from the outside, but why would he when Lundestrom will cost a lot less. I think you could get him signed for 2-2.5M max. Maybe even just do a QO offer for 1 year. We'll see if the he plays well enough from here to make a case for a better contract than his QO.

Try watching a game, I have. He gets smoked in shot metrics,1/3 of his points come from the power play, he’s playing almost 21 minutes a night, he struggles mightily against opposing centers with speed, and when I say smoked in shot metrics that’s an understatement with an even strength CF of 41.5, did you ever think SJS is as bad as they are in part because he is playing so much, he isn’t a 2c that COL should even consider I could care less about the price because I don’t think he could do it.

Lol you really think he's part of the reason SJ is so bad? Throwing out shot metrics and CF is insane when in the context of this team. his relative CF% is + 1.3 which literally means he is performing higher than the rest of his team. This is also with Zetterlund, Duclair, Hoffman, and Kunin as his wingers. All decent in their own right, but not as top 6 forwards.

Again, if you actually watch him play he's driving play, creating chances every single night. He's been phenominal and with another year left Sharks aren't retaining and selling low. That's absurd

His CF% at even strength is -3.5. Not ideal.

I think he's somewhere in between the two of you. And I definitely don't think my offer is ridiculous considering what I see and his inconsistencies over the recent years. The Sharks might get more, but I don't think it's gonna be as much as you seem to think.

I think it's somewhat close at no retention, but that amount of retention is completely unreasonable, especially considering the Sharks would have no more retention slots this year and next. Also considering they're DUMPING a contract. COL is coming out with a much better player AND a lower cap hit overall. At worst they're getting a high end special teams specialist with average 5v5 play which is worth quite a bit at only 3.5 mil.

He has a -12.6 xGD he’s driving play all right for the other team. I don’t care what the sharks do with him and I think the Avs should have nothing to do with him.