I could see this happening

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Created by: pensfan21

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2024

Published: Jan. 9, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The more I think about it the more I think there is a chance Dubas deals Guentzel while also still trying to contend. It seems like one of those situations where the team is gearing for a playoff push and should buy, but Guentzel will probably not re-sign and it is too good of a trade to pass up.

Overall it really feels like this will be a big TDL one way or another. Feels like a lot of trades will be made.

Trades

PIT

Hanzel, Jeremy [Reserve List]
Johansen, Ryan
2024 1st round pick (COL)

COL

Guentzel, Jake

PIT

Bogosian, Zach

MIN

2024 4th round pick (PIT)

PIT

Bunting, Michael

Additional Details:

I'm sure more needs to be added, but change of scenery trade for both players.

CAR

Smith, Reilly

PIT

Zucker, Jason ($2,500,000 retained)

ARI

2024 2nd round pick (PIT)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$82,729,342	$0	$0	$770,658

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Zucker, Jason $2,800,000$2,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Puustinen, Valtteri $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Bogosian, Zach $850,000$850,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1

Jan. 9 at 3:46 p.m.

pensgm

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I think the Jake offer is light
Id love bunting but dont think the canes move him if they dont have to, they like him there.
I personally dont want to spend a 2nd to get zucker back.

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Jan. 9 at 3:50 p.m.

pensfan21

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Quoting: pensgm

I think the Jake offer is light
Id love bunting but dont think the canes move him if they dont have to, they like him there.
I personally dont want to spend a 2nd to get zucker back.

I think they could add a little more to the Jake offer. Another good prospect. Bunting I think would be one of Dubas' choices to replace Guentzel and I feel like he is the type of player the team needs. Don't know what Carolina thinks, but I saw his name as a potential trade candidate. And I think we should avoid trading any 1sts and 2nds if possible. But I'd be open to dealing a 2nd or 3rd for a 3rd line player. Open to any player there that could step in and help.

Jan. 9 at 3:52 p.m.

pensgm

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Quoting: pensfan21

I think they only move him for goalie help. If it were bunting and maybe a pick for smith and ned it might be possible

Jan. 9 at 3:56 p.m.

pensfan21

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Quoting: pensgm

I think they only move him for goalie help. If it were bunting and maybe a pick for smith and ned it might be possible

Yeah I could see that. Which would be tough, I don't think I'd move Ned at the deadline unless we were selling.

Jan. 9 at 3:57 p.m.

Xqb15a

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COL needs centers not wingers

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Jan. 9 at 3:59 p.m.

pensgm

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Quoting: pensfan21

Yeah I could see that. Which would be tough, I don't think I'd move Ned at the deadline unless we were selling.

I dont want to lose him either I really like the tandem. However we do need to think about acquiring assets - it will shorten a rebuild

Jan. 9 at 4:00 p.m.

Caniac2000

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Why would Carolina do this? Bunting is drastically outproducing Smith... Bunting's been very good for Carolina, there's 0 reason to move him. This is a made up narrative because he plays on the fourth line

Jan. 9 at 4:00 p.m.

pensfan21

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Quoting: pensgm

I dont want to lose him either I really like the tandem. However we do need to think about acquiring assets - it will shorten a rebuild

Agree with you on that. I've been thinking selling and starting rebuild is the best approach, but I'm starting to come around to the idea of trying to contend this playoffs with how we've been recently. Given that we are close to a rebuild though, I think we might have no choice but to trade Guentzel regardless of which approach we take

Jan. 9 at 4:04 p.m.

Caniac555

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Why does Bunting need a change of scenery?

Jan. 9 at 4:04 p.m.

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Novistic

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The avs don't need a winger

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Jan. 9 at 4:06 p.m.

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pensgm

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Quoting: pensfan21

I think we need to trade him, we cant lose him for nothing. That line is so dominate though which makes it hard. Id be fine selling him and spending those picks on younger players so we can still compete. Too many moves effects chemistry though

Jan. 9 at 5:11 p.m.

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evelutions2

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So a guy who plays on the 4th line and has gotten PP1 to become elite over the last month, and is scoring at a 50-60 point pace, needs a change of scenery? Not sure I understand that narrative.

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