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The moves no ones saw coming

Created by: ToneCapone420
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2024
Published: Jan. 19, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Guentzel, Jake ($3,000,000 retained)
2.
CGY
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Hirvonen, Roni
  3. Kämpf, David
  4. Niemelä, Topi
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (TOR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,934,783$0$0$1,565,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 19 at 9:12 a.m.
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down bad
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I don’t see Penguin moving him but this would be nasty
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Jan. 19 at 9:18 a.m.
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I'm honestly sick and tired of seeing Guentzel trades. The Pens are only a couple points out of a wild card spot with at least one game in hand over everyone above them in the East. They're still in the playoff race and Dubas hasn't talked to anyone about a Jake trade. As of right now, he's not available.
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Jan. 19 at 9:53 a.m.
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Swap out Timmins with Liljegren, add a 2nd going to Pittsburgh, and Ruhwedel going to Toronto. But Guentzel isn’t available in real life.
Jan. 19 at 9:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Haymaker26
I'm honestly sick and tired of seeing Guentzel trades. The Pens are only a couple points out of a wild card spot with at least one game in hand over everyone above them in the East. They're still in the playoff race and Dubas hasn't talked to anyone about a Jake trade. As of right now, he's not available.


While a agree with you that the Pens aren't likely sellers (at this time), isn't it a bit of stretch that you that Dubas hasn't talked to other GMs about a Jake trade? GMs talk all the time about players and their trade values in case they want to pull the trigger later.
Jan. 19 at 10:07 a.m.
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No one saw them coming probably because they aren’t anywhere close to realistically happening
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Jan. 19 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: DogDayCaps2
I don’t see Penguin moving him but this would be nasty


Yeah, the Pens are trending to being the WC fight until the end, so it's unlikely (barring major long-term injuries) that Jake will become available, but I like this deal if he did get moved.
Jan. 19 at 10:43 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
While a agree with you that the Pens aren't likely sellers (at this time), isn't it a bit of stretch that you that Dubas hasn't talked to other GMs about a Jake trade? GMs talk all the time about players and their trade values in case they want to pull the trigger later.


Dubas literally just made the comments yesterday in an interview that he hasn't engaged in any conversations with other teams about Jake.
Jan. 19 at 10:58 a.m.
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No
Jan. 19 at 12:22 p.m.
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Dubas literally just made the comments yesterday in an interview that he hasn't engaged in any conversations with other teams about Jake.


Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.
Jan. 19 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.


They have been very open regarding the situation. You just don't want to believe it.
Jan. 19 at 2:10 p.m.
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Weegar isn’t available and even if he was leafs aren’t gonna acquire him we don’t hunt big fish ever, and pass on Pittsburg we aren’t paying that much for a forward we do not need
Jan. 19 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Oh no.....NEVER believe what a player/coach/GM says in public. It's for public consumption and not necessarily factual at all.
Of course Dubas isn't going to say, "We've had trade talks regarding Jake" is he? GMs, coaches, players just don't throw their teams "under the bus."
How often does a GM talk at a press conference. "I like our group here, they won't be changes", then a week latter major trades. Or saying, "There isn't going to be a coaching change", Next week the coach is fired." Or an upcoming UFA says, "I want to stay here long term", but bolts at his first change as a UFA.


If you've decided that Dubas is an untrustworthy liar, that's your prerogative. But Dubas is the best source we have on what Dubas is currently planning. If Guentzel ends up being traded, it is completely realistic that trade talks can begin between now and the trade deadline in about a month and a half. As of right now, I have no reason to think we're hearing offers for Jake.
Jan. 19 at 8:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Haymaker26
If you've decided that Dubas is an untrustworthy liar, that's your prerogative. But Dubas is the best source we have on what Dubas is currently planning. If Guentzel ends up being traded, it is completely realistic that trade talks can begin between now and the trade deadline in about a month and a half. As of right now, I have no reason to think we're hearing offers for Jake.


I'm saying GMs have an obligation to their teams, not to the media or the fans. GMs don't show their cards in public. Has nothing to do with being a liar.
Gee, if Dubas was asked about the 23 Pens individually, if there had been trade talks, for each individual he would say "No". It just isn't Jake.
Jan. 20 at 12:36 p.m.
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If this was a serious offer for Guentzel and Pens will be on the edge of play-off, I'd take it anyway.
 
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