i would love zegras in the metro. beef beef beef. but torts won't like him

0 interest from ANA

Torts cooled off the Zegras hate train a little while back. I'm sure he wouldn't love it at times but Torts gets say in trades to my knowledge, he's basically a GM

Vatrano doesn't make Zegras a luxury, he was a FA signing and while extremely likeable and fitting well in the system, is not a long term piece of this roster.

If we're trading Zegras to Philly, we're extracting Bonk, Foerster, and Philly's first.

just so i know is there a specific reason why? obviously he's a good player but if their top six is something like:

Gauthier-Carlsson-Demidov
X-McTavish-Terry

down the line, is Zegras that vital to the team? that's just what i was thinking. if it's the value i totally get that

maybe i worded it poorly but i was more so thinking Demidov/Eiserman and Gauthier made him a luxury

that package makes sense but to be honest if I'm anaheim i stay away from foerster. i don't see him as a first line forward ever but that's what the trade value would be

Found Fletchers burner account /s

All offense no defense sounds terrible. Look how well its worked our for Edmonton.

I view him as potential second line guy, I'd prefer Tippet but that sweetheart deal he just signed jumped his value and I would assume he's untouchable after that.

He’s absolutely vital. We have a dearth of scoring wingers, and he was one of our best the last 2 years as a 20 and 21 year old. We’d be unloading one of the things we need most.

Even in your example top 6 where you assume we take Demidov and that he pans out, we have a gap exactly where Z fits as a top 6 LW (and on top of that my expectation/hope is that we take Levshunov). Without Demidov, we have 2 huge holes.

On top of that, the value is also short. To be enticing for Z it’d need to be closer to a ~7ishOA ‘24 pick and Bonk. Not a late ‘25 1st and a 3rd.

For one, there is no reason to think they'll take Demidov. It's more likely they take Levshunov or Silayev IMO.

As to the value, Bonk is a fine piece for Zegras but trying to push the pick to Vegas' 2025 1st is just not appealing. The pick is a year too late and in the wrong half of the round (25+ likely). Philly's first in 2024 would be a must.

Why'd they trade Drysdale if they're just going to draft another D over the high upside forwards at that spot? Verbeek confuses me if he's taking Levshunov, ESPECIALLY Silayev since he's another LHD

I might have to rethink Konecny's value I suppose. That's the value for him in this economy? Sheesh, they could get so much for Konecny

i'd assume the same. honestly i see zegras as a slightly better version of tippett which is why i offered so little (i thought it was too much, actually but i still went that high)

at that point the ducks would hang onto him because no team but the flyers would ever think about giving that up, just because of the unique position of their rebuild

He’s a 22 year old back-to-back 60pt scorer on a reasonable RFA controlled contract. When UFA veterans like Monahan and Lindholm net 1st + ‘meh’ prospect, the value doesn’t seem outlandish at all. Blue chip pieces for blue chip pieces (just like the Drysdale Gauthier trade)

In the NHL you draft BPA if you are smart. It's easy to assume that Verbeek likes one or the other defender better than Drysdale and Gauthier better than the forwards. Remember that Drysdale wasn't a Verbeek pick nor does he fit the physical profile the GMPV covets.

WRT to Silayev. If you think he's in the same caliber as Hedman or Makar (ie a true #1 capable of winning the Norris) you draft him regardless of left or right. I'm not claiming he's that good but if the Ducks draft him it's a sure sign that they do think that. The Ducks have lots of good left D but nobody in that range. Fowler has been the Ducks top LHD for a long time and I don't think any one would argue with me saying he's a #2 or even a #3 guy at best. Mintyukov and Zellweger I think will both top out like Fowler.

The best path to winning a cup includes having a #1 D. Or two. Nothing was better than the Ducks cup winning team with Scott Niedermayer and Chris Pronger on it.