If the blues trade Kyrou it will be for quality over quantity. Late 1sts won't mean much in trading Kyrou

"the blues reportedly wanted the equivalent of 2 1sts for Buchnevich ", yeah, and how did that go for them.

Gretzky was traded for 3x1st+. Kyrou isn't worth as much.

How does a player gets 73 points and yet finishes -38 amazes me, Montreal usually highly values two way players which is certainly not a force of Kyrou.
If I were Hughes I'd outwait the Blues because they get stuck with his NTC, I don't.

Both teams decline, end of story. MTL aren’t trading for a guy that makes more than Suzuki, and less effective, STL aren’t trading a young top 6 forward for a bunch of (?)

You can wait all you want. There are 30 other teams in the league...

The asking price for Buch was so high because he’s a PPG player making $5 mil with an extra year on his deal; he's not a rental. I don’t think the Blues even wanted to trade him and if he is moved it’ll be at the draft. Armstrong usually signs his top guys to extensions in the summer and if they don’t get a deal in the offseason they're good as gone.

Gretzky was traded because the oilers needed money

That definitely is a bit concerning but I can't imagine he's at fault for all of that. He may be a below average defender but he's so good offensively I think they would make it work

Less effective is interesting to say the least...

SEASON TEAM LEAGUE TOI GP G A P +/- PIM PLAYOFFS GP G A P +/- PIM
Caufield 2020-21 Montreal Canadiens NHL 13:58 10 4 1 5 -1 2 PLAYOFFS 20 4 8 12 -5 0
Caufield 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens NHL 16:41 67 23 20 43 -24 10
Caufield 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens NHL 18:03 46 26 10 36 -10 2
Caufield 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens NHL 19:24 66 19 33 52 -7 16

Kyrou 2020-21 St. Louis Blues NHL 14:25 55 14 21 35 1 12 PLAYOFFS 4 1 0 1 -3 0
Kyrou 2021-22 St. Louis Blues NHL 16:35 74 27 48 75 10 20 PLAYOFFS 12 7 2 9 -4 4
Kyrou 2022-23 St. Louis Blues NHL 18:00 79 37 36 73 -38 22
Kyrou 2023-24 St. Louis Blues NHL 18:22 66 20 28 48 -12 20

If they won't pay anymore more than Suzuki we may as well start the next rebuild, he's not good enough to be the top guy on a cup winning team. And Kyrou makes like 300k more, that's nothing for an NHL salary.

And once the NTC kicks in Kyrou is the one calling the shots

True - still 2 off-seasons and 1 trade deadline before that happens though. If the Blues do trade Kyrou (and I'm one who thinks they will and Blues fans on here can throw rocks at me for it), I think it will be more of a hockey trade. Maybe it could look like this and they take assets to try and get other current player(s), but I don't know.

Umm it went precisely as they wanted it to, with Buch still on their team. People seem to forget the difference between a player on the block and one who is not available unless somebody knocks Army out of his socks.

Half his minuses last season came with the Blues net empty. And boooooy, it was empty a lot. Kyrou has greatly improved his defensive responsibility level and production this season. And his "terrible defensive play" was always exaggerated anyway.

Heh. And where did you hear that?

Rutherford, Strickland, Jansen, Friedman, Seravalli, Kelly Chase, any radio show in St. Louis that is on the station that broadcast the Blues games. I know you like Kyrou a lot. But you really have your head in the sand if you don't at least admit there's a possibility the Blues might move him...

Funny, where did I say Caufield? Nowhere. Plus, Caufield is 3 years younger anyways, not really comparing apples to apples. Suzuki is better than Kyrou, and MTL won’t pay a less good player more than their captain. That contract was set as a benchmark, and likely no player in MTL gets more, unless a player clearly surpassed Suzuki

Never did I say “anyone”, I said, “players that Suzuki is superior to” if Slaf clears Suzuki, he would get more, but if he doesn’t, he won’t

So why trade him away before the NTC? You guys are still ranked 14th in prospect pool by the athelic as all your prioir first rounders seem to be on their way to become at least NHL players, you have a young top 6 and are still pretty close to playoffs? Why rebuild?

I have no interest in trading him. You're right, he fits the retool timeline like a glove.

I was asking this guy. And stop including JR as a source on this, he did not report anything on this. He gave his own pissy baby take on it, nothing more.

And I never said there's no possibility, that's just a straw man. The real wonder here is how many Blues fans irrationally hate him no matter how he actually plays. But of course, we've seen that movie countless times for decades, so it just is what it is.

Go look at the salary caps of the good teams around the league. There are all types of situations where the best player on the team is not making the most due to timing of contract…

When Colorado won their cup a few seasons ago, MacKinnon was making $6m and Rantanen was making $9. Your logic will hamper your team from being successful…

You saying Blues fans irrationally hate Kyrou while irrationally hating on JR in the same post is something…

I don’t hate Kyrou. I think he’s a very good player. That being said, I still think the Blues will trade him as there has been friction with both sides being at fault…

How am I irrationally hating on JR exactly? He legit is an unprofessional hack who lies to his readers and cannot stop stirring up controversy in the team. And when he gets caught, he acts like he had no idea it would be a thing, when that's exactly why he did it. He's demonstrably a clout chasing loser who is only good at fluffy personal features. He has zero scoops, and on the rare occasion when he tries it spectacularly face-splats. His analysis is about 45% Dom ignorance, 45% fanciful cherry picking and maybe MAYBE 10% salient commentary - half of which he just bites from the smarter analysis in the comments section. In a city with a long tradition of top tier media voices, he should stick out like a sore, stupid thumb. And not just because he looks like one. Calling out JR is not irrational in the slightest. It's Cpt. Obvious discernment.

Folks calling Kyrou a coach killer is irrational hatred. Folks blasting one of their best players with wildly skewed claims and outright delusions is irrational hatred. And like I said, very much the norm with a considerable segment of our fan base.

So everything you just wrote here is your opinion…none of it is objective.

Fans (short for fanatic) can dislike Kyrou for his maturity issues or his lack of respect just as much as you can dislike JR because you think all of that…works both ways.

To just flat out deny that the Blues Mgmt (not the fans) might not be as high on Kyrou as you, and they might entertain trading him before his NTC kicks in is just choosing to be ignorant.