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Created by: evelutions2
Team: 2024-25 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 16, 2024
Published: Mar. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
3rd pair is just stopgaps until Morrow and Nikishin are brought up.

Prospects who could make pushes or are expected to land a roster spot over the next year:
J. Blake
F. Unger-Sorum
S. Morrow (after NCAA season is finished, expected)
A. Nikishin (after KHL contract expires, expected)

With the cap rising and a Jarvis bridge deal (would much rather long term), Canes have enough salary coming off the books and enough prospects that should make the roster over the course of the next 2 seasons, that they can extend both Marner and Slavin with relative ease.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
3$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,750,000
1$1,000,000
4$2,000,000
7$4,000,000
4$2,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$2,000,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Marner, Mitchell ($5,451,500 retained)
Additional Details:
Assuming he waives after Toronto gets knocked out early again. 3rd party eats the retention for whatever, too lazy to do.
TOR
  1. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Condition 1st depending on Guentzel trade. If the 1st is transferred in the Guentzel trade, this 1st becomes a 2025 unprotected 1st.
2.
CAR
    Retention for Marner. What would be the price.
    CHI
    3.
    CAR
      Trade is only made assuming both Necas and Marner will be willing to extend with their new clubs. No extensions are agreed upon before the trade.
      TOR
      4.
      CAR
      1. 2024 6th round pick (BOS)
      2. 2025 7th round pick (BOS)
      3. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
      BOS
      1. Drury, Jack [RFA Rights]
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2024
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      Logo of the TOR
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      Logo of the CAR
      2025
      Logo of the CAR
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      Logo of the CAR
      Logo of the BOS
      2026
      Logo of the CAR
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$87,500,000$86,926,500$0$0$573,500
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Guentzel, Jake
      $7,750,000$7,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Aho, Sebastian
      $9,750,000$9,750,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 8
      Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
      Marner, Mitchell
      $5,451,500$5,451,500
      RW
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Svechnikov, Andrei
      $7,750,000$7,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Kuznetsov, Evgeny
      $3,900,000$3,900,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Jarvis, Seth
      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      RW
      RFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Teräväinen, Teuvo
      $4,000,000$4,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
      $4,820,000$4,820,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Noesen, Stefan
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Motte, Tyler
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Staal, Jordan
      $2,900,000$2,900,000
      C, LW
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Fast, Jesper
      $2,400,000$2,400,000
      RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Slavin, Jaccob
      $5,300,000$5,300,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Burns, Brent
      $5,280,000$5,280,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Andersen, Frederik
      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Orlov, Dmitry
      $7,750,000$7,750,000
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Chatfield, Jalen
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      RD
      UFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Kochetkov, Pyotr
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Smith, Ty
      $800,000$800,000
      LD/RD
      RFA
      Miller, Colin
      $2,000,000$2,000,000
      RD
      UFA
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Martin, Spencer
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Jones, Caleb
      $900,000$900,000
      LD/RD
      UFA
      Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
      Lemieux, Brendan
      $775,000$775,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1

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      Mar. 16 at 11:53 a.m.
      #1
      Hawksguy81
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      50% retention on Marner costs another 1st at a minimum. See the Patty Marleau trade as a reference. And if it's a late 1st two drafts away, it likely takes more.
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      Mar. 16 at 11:58 a.m.
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      MitchJr
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      Canes fans rule 😂🤣 - hard to get anyone to care about your team unless you involve Leafs Nation somehow. Makes total sense that Marner leaves hometown and centre of hockey universe to play for a small market team 🤦🏻. Despite playing in the easier division, I’ll take Leafs chances in playoffs over Canes any day
      Mar. 16 at 12:00 p.m.
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      itzRavai
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      I’ll take Leafs chances in playoffs over Canes any day


      I audibly laughed
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      Mar. 16 at 12:00 p.m.
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      MitchJr
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      Quoting: itzRavai
      I audibly laughed


      🥱
      Mar. 16 at 12:01 p.m.
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      Caniac2000
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      Quoting: Hawksguy81
      50% retention on Marner costs another 1st at a minimum. See the Patty Marleau trade as a reference. And if it's a late 1st two drafts away, it likely takes more.


      That was more than 6 million in a flat cap, you're not going to get a 1st for 5 mill in retention with the cap starting to jump again. Bad comparable, look more closely to the Bailey dump, since that was actually slightly more than the Marner retention would be.

      Either way it doesn't matter because Necas + for rental Marner is a beyond stupid premise to begin with.
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      Mar. 16 at 12:02 p.m.
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      Caniac2000
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Canes fans rule 😂🤣 - hard to get anyone to care about your team unless you involve Leafs Nation somehow. Makes total sense that Marner leaves hometown and centre of hockey universe to play for a small market team 🤦🏻. Despite playing in the easier division, I’ll take Leafs chances in playoffs over Canes any day


      That's why the Canes won more playoff series last season than the Leafs have in the Cap era huh?
      Mar. 16 at 12:07 p.m.
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      ecupirate07
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      Quoting: itzRavai
      I audibly laughed


      2 posters not worth engaging are Mitchjr and Caniac2000. They both give incoherent homer takes on the regular
      Mar. 16 at 12:14 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      That's why the Canes won more playoff series last season than the Leafs have in the Cap era huh?


      Easier division; as soon as you play an Atlantic team you get 🧹 😂. But keep hanging those series winner banners bud. Either way, Marner ain’t waiving for Carolina
      Mar. 16 at 12:16 p.m.
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      Caniac2000
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Easier division; as soon as you play an Atlantic team you get 🧹 😂. But keep hanging those series winner banners bud. Either way, Marner ain’t waiving for Carolina


      Cool, keep him. You think the Metro's easier than the Atlantic? Seriously? That's why there have been more Stanley Cup winning teams from the Metropolitan than the Atlantic since the realignment, right? So much easier! So easy in fact, you lost to Columbus and Washington in series... not like it matters, you'll be bounced by Tampa in round 1. Keep crying, and enjoy the long summer again
      Mar. 16 at 12:24 p.m.
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      MitchJr
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Cool, keep him. You think the Metro's easier than the Atlantic? Seriously? That's why there have been more Stanley Cup winning teams from the Metropolitan than the Atlantic since the realignment, right? So much easier! So easy in fact, you lost to Columbus and Washington in series... not like it matters, you'll be bounced by Tampa in round 1. Keep crying, and enjoy the long summer again


      Hit a nerve 😂?
      1/ you just got swept - fact.
      2/ past 5 Eastern Conf finalists from Atlantic - fact

      But keep posting Leafs trades champ 😂; they are completely preposterous - like this one - but at least you’ll guarantee people will actually care enough to pay attention
      Mar. 16 at 12:35 p.m.
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      Hawksguy81
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      That was more than 6 million in a flat cap, you're not going to get a 1st for 5 mill in retention with the cap starting to jump again. Bad comparable, look more closely to the Bailey dump, since that was actually slightly more than the Marner retention would be.

      Either way it doesn't matter because Necas + for rental Marner is a beyond stupid premise to begin with.


      And I'd counter the Bailey dump isn't a better comparable. Bailey's cap hit to the Hawks is $2.66m this season and $1.2m next. That's $3.8m for a 2nd. Mariners $5.4m cap hit retention easily costs a 1st, especially since there would only be a few teams who would even be candidates to take it on.
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      Mar. 16 at 12:35 p.m.
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      Caniac2000
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Hit a nerve 😂?
      1/ you just got swept - fact.
      2/ past 5 Eastern Conf finalists from Atlantic - fact

      But keep posting Leafs trades champ 😂; they are completely preposterous - like this one - but at least you’ll guarantee people will actually care enough to pay attention


      Oof, Almost like the Canes were missing their 2 best wingers while their third was playing with a broken hand... might have had something to do with it.
      Your statement is incorrect. In 2021, there was no Atlantic division, so neither team in the finals counts as an Atlantic team. And if the division is so good, why don't you ever come out of it? Carolina have been to the ECF twice in the last six years. Last time Toronto made the Eastern Conference Finals, they got beat by.... oh would you look at that in 2002!
      Mar. 16 at 12:37 p.m.
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      Caniac2000
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      Quoting: Hawksguy81
      And I'd counter the Bailey dump isn't a better comparable. Bailey's cap hit to the Hawks is $2.66m this season and $1.2m next. That's $3.8m for a 2nd. Mariners $5.4m cap hit retention easily costs a 1st, especially since there would only be a few teams who would even be candidates to take it on.


      Bailey's contract was 5.5 though, was more my point. Yes, you bought it out in the end, but you have to pay it over multiple years. 5 for 1 year on Marner is a 2nd at most. The cap jumping proves it, and Marleau was north of 6 for a 1st.
      Mar. 16 at 12:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      That was more than 6 million in a flat cap, you're not going to get a 1st for 5 mill in retention with the cap starting to jump again. Bad comparable, look more closely to the Bailey dump, since that was actually slightly more than the Marner retention would be.

      Either way it doesn't matter because Necas + for rental Marner is a beyond stupid premise to begin with.


      I lean more towards your side on this. Recent history is 3rd 4th or 5th to be the third wheel in these deals.
      Mar. 16 at 12:47 p.m.
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Oof, Almost like the Canes were missing their 2 best wingers while their third was playing with a broken hand... might have had something to do with it.
      Your statement is incorrect. In 2021, there was no Atlantic division, so neither team in the finals counts as an Atlantic team. And if the division is so good, why don't you ever come out of it? Carolina have been to the ECF twice in the last six years. Last time Toronto made the Eastern Conference Finals, they got beat by.... oh would you look at that in 2002!


      Injuries 😂. I’d work on some new excuses for this year 🧹 🧹 🧹
      Mar. 16 at 1:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: itzRavai
      I audibly laughed


      It is hard to argue against all of the leafs success in the playoffs recently
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      Mar. 16 at 1:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jco5ta5
      I lean more towards your side on this. Recent history is 3rd 4th or 5th to be the third wheel in these deals.


      I think it should be more than that. This is still 5 million against the cap for a year. A 2nd is where I'd place it. It's not the 6+ million of Marleau, but it's not the 800k we're eating to have made the Lybushkin deal possible.
      Mar. 16 at 1:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: MitchJr
      Injuries 😂. I’d work on some new excuses for this year 🧹 🧹 🧹


      Oh yeah, maybe you can give me some ideas, what have you got for your next first round elimination?
      Mar. 16 at 3:28 p.m.
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      Jco5ta5
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      I think it should be more than that. This is still 5 million against the cap for a year. A 2nd is where I'd place it. It's not the 6+ million of Marleau, but it's not the 800k we're eating to have made the Lybushkin deal possible.


      To clarify, Marner would go to the Hawks with his full $10.9M, then the Hawks would retain 50% (so 5.45M) to go to Carolina? Toronto is not retaining?
      Mar. 16 at 4:48 p.m.
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      Quoting: Jco5ta5
      To clarify, Marner would go to the Hawks with his full $10.9M, then the Hawks would retain 50% (so 5.45M) to go to Carolina? Toronto is not retaining?


      I'm guessing so since the ACGM has Marner at half hit, not quarter.
       
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