You gotta be kidding. Caulfield isn’t worth half a Robert Thomas. And just so this isn’t lost in translation - the Blues would not trade the Habs Thomas for 2 Caufields.

Blues say “not in a million years”…Thomas is worth more than Caufield and a 1st…and you have Snuggs too…need another 1st and Slaf…Barron and Roy lol.

Are you being serious right now?

Habs decline because CC has almost as many goals in half the games while still having close to the same ppg average.

Blues decline cause Snuggerud has more value than a late 1st and the difference between Caufield and Thomas is less than the difference between Snuggerud and a late 1st.

I'm asking a question, is seriousness a necessity in such situations?

Caufield has 52 points in 66 games. Thomas has 70 points in 66 games. Math is hard…

You do realize I was talking about over their careers not the season, right?! I know logic is hard...

Caufield 72 goals, 136 points in 189 games 0.72 PPG 0.38 GPG
Thomas 81 goals, 299 points in 380 games 0.79 PPG 0.21 GPG

Difference 11 goals in 191 less games

Umm the Blues by quite some margin.

Thomas plays a more valuable position and is a better player by A LOT, and he has more goals and points this year.

Wow you have got to put the crackpipe down Thomas isn't MacKinnon or McDavid. Over their careers Caufiled has 11 less goals in 191 less games, Caufield has the slightly higher value and even if he didn't, the gap isn't 4 more 1st round picks

The “lol” at the end of my response??? Guess it didn’t register for you. And why does everyone on here always say, “put down the crack pipe…”??? I never smoked crack before…however, I smelled it a few times. Interesting scent…you should give it a try. Oh and get off Caufield’s baby nuts…he ain’t got **** on Thomas, pal.

can i forward you your : «are you serious» from earlier statement?

OMG, Thomas has 19 more points on a much better team, break out the champagne so we can all celebrate the God that is Robert Freaking Thomas!!!

Now look at their career stats,
Caufield 73 G 147 P 0.72PPG 0.38 GPG
Thomas 80 G 299 P 0.79 PPG 0.21 GPG

Caufield has 11 less goals in 191 less games on pace for 274 points in 380 games, of those 144 would be goals.

So would you rather have 299 points, 80 of which are goals in 380 games played or 274 points, 144 of which are goals (prorated) in 380 games played?

As you can see, when you prorated the stats, the difference is not 4 1st round picks worth of value, it's maybe a 3rd and GM's tend to value the scorers more than the playmakers

@Goose1227 @Noted, if a swap between Thomas and Caufield was a thing what would be the + on each side to even out a fair deal?

would you trade Cole Caufield for Nick Suzuki ?

It would be a 3rd from the Blues

No, Caufield is the rarer player, how many true snipers are there in hockey? Guys with the potential to put up 30, 40 or even 50 goal seasons? Now how many Suzuki type centers are there? Good 2 way centers who will average between 60 and 80 points a season? The ratio is probably about 2:1 in favour of the Suzuki type of players.

Edit*** So I checked, on 2022-23 there were 12 Centers who scored between 60 and 80 points, there were 5 LW and 8 who scored more than 30 goals. So my evaluation was off but it still isn't a trade to be made, you don't create a hole in your lineup to fill another one, that's illogical, that's how you end up with Drouin for Sergachev types of deals

Thomas has been a point per game player the last 3 seasons. Caufield has never come close to being a ppg player in any season. Funny that you are prorating your player. If you do just the last 3 seasons, it’s not even close…also you talk about Caufield like he is some prolific goal scorer when he’s never put up 30…

Thomas drives play. Caufield is a passenger.

HE’S NEVER SCORED EVEN 30

Habs with Suzuki and Thomas are a top 3 team in the league next season for sure

I don’t know, I’m a strong believer in Thomas being better than Caufield. I just think his style if play is more beneficial to a team, especially come playoffs. I’m not saying Caufield isn’t good, I just value Thomas more. So if it’s me, gotta add a 1st or 2nd w Caufield. I’ve watched Thomas a lot this year. He’s about to assert himself as one of the top C’s in the game for the next 6-8 years. It’s just my opinion…I could be way off.

St. Louis says no, because Thomas is better than Caufield and Snuggerud is better than a late first

You want to compare seasons then do it right, Caufield has only been in the league for 3 years, so the proper way to evaluate players with different career lengths is either by using PPG and GPG averages and prorating them or comparing their first 3 years (D+1 to D+3 seasons). The reason for this is that both players will continue to get better and the one with the longer career (in this case Thomas) has had the additional development years. Comparing only the last 3 years would be like comparing Bedard's totals to Petterson's, it's just ridiculous. Thomas didn't hit PPG status until his 4th year in the league, in fact, his numbers were very similar to Caufields through his first 3 seasons.

Thomas 33 P in 70 GP, 42 P in 66 GP, 12 P in 33 GP

Caufield 43 P in 67 GP, 36 P in 46 GP, 53 P in 67 GP (so far, as season is in progress and CC scored tonight)

No matter how you slice it, these two players have similar value, whether you like it or not

Semantics, Caufield had 26 last year in 46 games before being shutdown for the season. I guarantee if he had played 10 more games he would have eclipsed the 30 goal mark. So no technically Caufield has not hit 30 yet but more likely than not he will be a 30+ goal scorer soon enough.

PPG is a thing, but hockey is a 200ft game. 99% of it without the puck on your stick. So who is better : a scorer without 200 ft game on the small side, or an Oustanding 2way center ppg?

would Caufield + Winnipeg 1st be enough for Thomas?